What Are Friends For

Juno the Artist and Diane Foster: I'm a Best Friend Ho

March 09, 2021 Gabrielle Ruiz & Pallavi Sastry Season 3 Episode 6
What Are Friends For
Juno the Artist and Diane Foster: I'm a Best Friend Ho
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What Are Friends For
Juno the Artist and Diane Foster: I'm a Best Friend Ho
Mar 09, 2021 Season 3 Episode 6
Gabrielle Ruiz & Pallavi Sastry

This week Gabrielle and Pallavi are joined by best friends and business partners Juno the Artist and Diane Foster! The group discusses friendship among the racial reckoning that started in America last summer and conclude that sometimes being a good friend entails shutting the f*ck up and listening. This episode is full of laughs as well as serious conversations, and we hope you enjoy! 

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This week Gabrielle and Pallavi are joined by best friends and business partners Juno the Artist and Diane Foster! The group discusses friendship among the racial reckoning that started in America last summer and conclude that sometimes being a good friend entails shutting the f*ck up and listening. This episode is full of laughs as well as serious conversations, and we hope you enjoy! 

Get free delivery on your first grocery order of $35 or more at instacart.oloiyb.net/WAFF 

Follow us everywhere @waffpodcast

Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/waffpodcast)

Gabrielle Ruiz:

No really What are friends for. Hi everyone. Welcome back to our show WAFF. I'm Gabrielle Ruiz

Pallavi Sastry:

and I'm Gabrielle's best friend Pallavi Sastry.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I mean, full disclosure, we are instant we are a reality conversation when it comes to friendship, you have some shitty news, like two seconds before we started and it was business, just to let you guys know is business centric. Yeah. And it sucks. I mean, my underwear doesn't fit anymore in my third trimester. Like, today, both you and I are like blood.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, we're having the struggle is real for very different reasons. And I told her, I told you, I was like, you know, I don't think I want to put whoever called me on blast. But I did answer the phone to get that shitty news, like five seconds before we went on to this, this episode. And I was just like, I just shouldn't have answered the phone, I should have answered the phone.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

No. There's power and filter. You know, there's power and like setting your own schedule. But that reminds me of like, you know, working with you because and being your good friend, because our two guests friends today also are good friends and collaborators and hard workers together and the ins and outs, I'm so interested in diving into that. Because, like, days also really suck. And we still have to keep working. And so I think artists really understand that. I'm not sure if accountants understand that. But like, if you are an accountant and listening to our show, leave us a review and let us know how you get through shitty days and still continue to count numbers.

Pallavi Sastry:

I think it's because they count money. I think it's good. That's why they don't feel bad, they count money, you know, so it's just like money's always gonna come in because that's their job is to count money. So anyway, without further ado, we should go into this.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I am so excited about our two guests friends. So let's bring on our artists guitarist, writer, producer, actress, entrepreneur, Juno the artist.

Juno:

What's up?

Pallavi Sastry:

Hello,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

how you doing?

Pallavi Sastry:

We're so happy to have you well and we'll go into all of that love in just a minute. But we also want to bring on your your better half or a second half or however you guys want to collect it. We have actress producer directors single moms super woman badass and owner of Wally bird productions. Miss Diane Foster.

Diane Foster:

Hey, what's up!

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Diane we say e're obsessed with Juno. And I hink that has a lot to do with ou.

Diane Foster:

Oh, Goodness. Thank you. I can't take credit for her awesomeness. I just I just, I'm just here helping it out.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

True. But I have to say like, as are you? What is what is your business relationship with each other? First, we'll go with that.

Diane Foster:

So yeah, I am her creative director. Basically all the stuff that she amazingly makes all her music, I put visuals to her music. And that's how we collaborate together. And it's really been absolutely amazing since we became friends, and it was immediate. So

Pallavi Sastry:

so then that leads into the next question then. So it's like a chicken or egg right? So did you become friends first? Or did you meet on professional terms?

Diane Foster:

Do you want to answer that, you know, or me?

Juno:

Your story is so much funnier than mine

Diane Foster:

sort of me. We met actually, as friends. First how we met was I was doing a play at the Beverly Hills Playhouse where I was taking acting class for several years. And Juno had done the show Empire. And the director of the show Howie Deutsch suggested she come to the Playhouse and check out the play that was going on. And I was starring in that play. And we did like a q&a afterward for the whole group that was there. And Juno's stood up and was like, Yo, this play was the best thing I've ever seen. And you all change my life and, like was so, so sweet. And so awesome. And we were all just like the whole cast was like, Who is this person because she's really cool. And like a total fireball. And that's exactly how she comes into every room. It's just like a fireball. So she put us up on our Instagram after seeing the play and was like, yo, everybody has to go see the show. They're so talented and amazing. And that's how we became friends. We started following each other on social media. Then we started talking to each other and talking about, you know, just creative stuff, and, you know, the kind of stuff that she wanted to do visually. And I was like, Yes, I totally want to do that. And obviously having a production company and being a director and a producer all these years. It was really just a match made in heaven.

Pallavi Sastry:

very serendipitous as they say, right?

Diane Foster:

Yes.

Pallavi Sastry:

Okay, so you guys, okay, you connected on Creative terms, but became friends through that and I'm so this is actually a really great segue because we do We're going to go into our first segment Instafriends or Reality Yeah, it's called Insta friends or reality. And that actually is like a great description of how you guys started to connect and how your relationship started to blossom. Because when you are apart or connected, you have to connect from afar. It's I mean, social media is such a great tool for that.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Okay, so January 16 2019. Right, you posted an Oprah Winfrey quote that we were obsessed with, because it's like three, three carousel photos of you and Diane and what the quote is, is from Oprah, love her. Lots of people want to ride with you in the limo, but what you want is someone who will take the bus with you when the limo breaks down.

Juno:

Yes, yes.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yes. And that quote, she's talking about Gayle, I'm pretty sure so would you say that this is like on the same level? Yeah, you and Gayle,

Juno:

definitely. I think it's crazy. Like, I think me and Diane connect on so many levels. And it's very few people who like, you know, you can celebrate your triumphs with but you can also be down in the valley and like, literally be like growing, I know, but no noodles, come over here and get some cheap wine and just quiet out tomorrow, start over, you know, but just to have somebody that you can break down and be and be at your worse, and then also clean it up and be at your best and they don't judge you you know what I'm saying? So I think that's what that quote really means. I think over the last Honestly, I think everyone since the quarantine has had such a difficult time just really accepting that this is the reality for for right now. You know, and that comes with, I think many different seasons and waves of emotions. And you know, just like it's been it's been a lot of that for me over the last year. And I just felt like having somebody to no matter what season I man, she rockin with me. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, it's dope. I love it.

Pallavi Sastry:

Now, let me ask you this. Are both of you in the same city right now?

Juno:

Right now? Yes. She's actually at my house in the next room.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

like we should do this in different rooms.

Juno:

Do not be up in my square.

Diane Foster:

So funny. It's so funny. Yeah, I live in LA and you know, is in Chicago, but we're here braving the cold. Oh, my God, Is it cold here. And we're working on a couple different projects. So

Juno:

nobody cares. The first music video for my album. I'm really excited. So we shot in LA, which was like literally like the beach. And then we came here to literally snow a snow storm.

Diane Foster:

before we move on from that quote, because I love that quote. And actually, when when she put that up, I thought that was so beautiful. Because we do we do talk a lot about how we're Oprah and Gayle. Like, we're always like, we're totally over again. And I just want to say like I think that is so important, especially for friendships and women who aren't entrepreneurs and stuff, that that idea of that supporting each other, when things are really great, is awesome, and very important. But supporting each other when things are not so great, is actually more important, and really what true friendship is all about. And certainly in the time that you know, and I have known each other these past couple years. You know, she's definitely lifted me up many, many times when I've just been a complete wreck. So I really appreciate that. And also just say like for all the friends out there that's a really a really wonderful and important part of friendship. So be there for your friends, especially when they're down even if you don't think that they need it reach out to them and say

Juno:

stuff they're starting new company, you know, it's so funny because I was on this i g live thing. I can't remember the name of it, but or something and I was performing. And people had to like donate. And so like it was like all the people in there like we got one donation, I was like yes. And I looked at him and I'm like, it's Diane. Like I made 50 bucks. But I mean that's, that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Like I had one donation and it was hard but you know, that's it. She didn't say no one else is donating. So I'm not it's like that's the kind of stuff that's like that's what you do for your friends. If they got merch by their merch. If they have a product or a business, inquire about their services. Don't try and get a hookup like we can we come to each other like we are best friends but when it comes to business, like I respect her as a director as a producer, she respects me as an artist, you know, and so we support each other even if that just means showing up and not just like lurking on each other's page but leaving a comment sharing their the existence they're doing. I know just seems like self explanatory, but

Gabrielle Ruiz:

it's not

Juno:

I think people have to learn how to show support in this new culture. We have social media. It's not we can nobody Regional thoughts from across the world, you gotta leave a comment. You got to know your story. You have to buy something you have to support with your actions. That's friendship, not just saying you're somebody's friend, no, your actions got to match that. And I reach out about us, it's like, now we show me what our actions, you know, so thank you for that one donation girl.

Diane Foster:

You're welcome.

Pallavi Sastry:

I think, you know, I think that speaks to the bigger sort of lesson I think that all of us have been having since quarantine because, you know, a lot of a lot of things have happened in our society to you know, over the last year, and it's being made clear that like, we do have to walk the walk. And it's it is harder to the when we're when we're socially distancing. But there are obviously lots of ways that we can do it via the online via Instagram via with our money in our wallets, in our in our mouths and our voices, you know, and so that actually, the the, the posts that we chose for you, Diane, is you reposted the Black Lives Matter scholarship opportunity for Juno's boot camp, which, you know, we are very much blown away by Juno's boot camp in general. And the fact that both of you work together on that, and that you are a part of the creative voice of that Diane, as well. Like it was very fascinating to us on another level. And like I said, we've all learned a lot of lessons in the last year, but how has the conversations between the two of you as friends changed since the tipping point last summer?

Diane Foster:

Yeah, you know, I have learned so much from Juno obviously, being a white woman in this world is a completely different experience than Juno has. And she has taught me so much of me being able to just sit and listen. And she has said that to me so many times, I just sit and listen right Juno like, you know, and I, I've really learned how to do that and understand that I will never understand, but be compassionate. And the idea that I live, obviously a completely different experience. And that's why it's so important for me, you know, especially with my company and everything that I started that people that are diverse, and also women have a voice. And that's why I love working with Juno and her Juno's guitar boot camp was an amazing experience for me to be a part of, because, you know, I just think that she's everything she mean, she's the most incredible, talented person I've ever truly met. And that that is absolutely true, beyond the fact that I love her dearly. She's so talented, she's so compassionate. And she's so passionate about these kids in her program, and, you know, getting to watch them grow and getting them to learn guitar, and the fact that she wanted to do it and, you know, get people to sponsor it. It's just been, it's just been amazing. So I'm really grateful to be a part of that. And to be a sponsor of the program. I was all in from the beginning. And I hope that she continues to do it, because I will continue to sponsor I will continue to be an ally for forever and ever and ever, so

Gabrielle Ruiz:

very versatile heart both of you have,

Pallavi Sastry:

yes, yeah. Do you know, do you feel like you've done? You've had to do any heavy lifting in your friendships, not just with Diane, or, you know, within these concepts, because that's what Gabrielle and I talked a lot about is like, you know, let's not ask, like, let's just go find the answer. Let's go, let's not have our black friends do a lot of the heavy lifting. You know, we might be bipoc. But we're not we're not black. So it's a different conversation. And so we know, as as non black PLC is that like, you know, we have to do a level explaining and code switching as well. But it's just the same, right? Yeah. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on that.

Juno:

Yeah, definitely. I think I think me and Diane have had a lot of conversations about that, specifically. Because I've had to even explain to her like, hey, the social media activism, great, appreciate you showing up for protests. Great. Appreciate it. You, you know, don't do an anti racism research. Great. I appreciate it. But when we're sitting in the privacy of my home, and we're having a conversation about a black issue, I need you to shut the fuck up and let me talk. That's where it matters the most to me. I don't care about all the other stuff. If you don't listen to me, you know what I'm saying? And I think for me, that's so important, because I think that a lot of people who are not black are involved. And I think that's awesome. But we cannot silence black people. To You know what I'm saying? Just because you're part of something, I still allow us to continue to share. It almost feels like everybody is a part of it. And we're becoming a minority again, sometimes where it's like, I don't want to be interrupted by anybody else about what I'm feeling about this. I'm the only black person here at this table right now. Like you don't say, so let me talk as opposed Feeling like, I have to minimize or shrink or apologize or sugarcoat anything. And I appreciate Diane being so open, you know, just fully allow me to be myself and just say, hey, sometimes, you know, there's something that happens in the world that when you turn your phone off that it ends there. But for me, it's, it's still here all night, because this is my reality every day, you know what I'm saying? And so just really fully get her to understand that. And I think once we had, and those are hard conversations to have, but I think just being able to be brutally honest. And having I told her, I was like, I would rather us have a two minutes of awkward silence of us just processing what each other just said, than us not saying what we really felt, even even if it feels weird, you know what I'm saying, but we got to be honest with the people that we trust, because that's where the real change happens. And so, you know, Yes, I do. I do feel like I've done, you know, heavy lifting, but I also feel super, super supported by the people around me. And I feel like, if I'm being honest, I feel like I've had to take charge and guiding them on how to support me. And I appreciate that they that they reset, very receptive, very respectful and very open to that. I can't say that about that everyone will be that way. So, you know, yo, yo friend might be like, I don't care, you know, I don't know. But I just, my experience has been very positive with that. And I encourage other black women and black men to speak up to your friends, if you have people around you that are saying they want to support you. If there are times where something don't feel right, speak up and say something, you know, if they care about you, they'll listen, you know, so that's been my experience and our friendship.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, I've noticed also in thank you for that. All those thoughts on that. And we learned I learned something from that as well to just shut the fuck up and listen. Listen. And so I think also in our, in the entertainment industry, because a lot of our livelihood depends on being visible, you know, it can be a hard pill to swallow for people to hear to shut the fuck up and listen, right? So it's like, we we not only have to take on on like a second level of patience there, it's like, Listen, I i understand that this is your livelihood, too. But at the same time, the fact that I haven't been able to say this to you, as a, as a PSA as a black woman, you know, it's like saying that to your friends who are in the same industry that are fighting for the same stuff, it's like not it's not actually the same, it's like, but can you just like be be my friend, rather than somebody who's trying to make a point about our livelihood right now, you know,

Juno:

or show me that you get it? Or, you know, even the fact one thing I loved that we talked about was like, sometimes I feel like as a black person, I can never express myself without afterwards have to comfort you with how you felt about how I what I felt. Like, you feel so bad. I've got to comfort you, I've got to hold you because you thought you feel about what I felt. You know, but being able to be real and say that, and then know what I didn't even think about it like that, you know what I'm saying? And just like the growth of both parties listening, you know, yeah, it's been tremendously successful, I think, you know, and just the progression of like, taking one more step forward, you know,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

yeah, and there's a lot of there's a lot of challenge, even going back to supporting each other with each other's initiatives, and with each other's merch. And with each other's you know, with experiences with racism, there's a lot of theatrics, there's a lot of stress and anxiety to fill all the space with action. With noise. It's like, if you're going to Coachella, and you're going to every concert at the same time, you're not going to hear any of the music. You don't mean like you're not you're not because everyone's trying to be louder than each other. And there's no silence to hear it's one soloist on that stage. And that's the person that deserves to be there. And that's what I love about art is that you just you are affected, good and bad. You agree. You can disagree. You can be challenged, you can be wrong, you know. And so I love that what you said, Juno, like, you just need to shut up and listen, and that in friendship can be a huge challenge for people. Yeah. It can be a huge breakup for a lot of friendships too, because they're like, but let me fix it for you. Oh, this is how I feel about it. And you're like, now you're not here for me. Yeah, right. 100% is like nodding and raising her hands. What do you think about that?

Diane Foster:

Well, it's just you know, it's funny because I'm a producer by nature. I mean, that's my job. So my job is to fix everything and to make everything work. And like I can I can do this I can put out these fires, you know, and sometimes with great intention, you know, it just it doesn't it doesn't work that way sometimes. So we have had certainly Juno and I have had, you know, a lot of fights where we're slamming doors Don't talk to me ever again. You and you. Oh, yeah, we've totally had those kind of those kind of things happen. Absolutely. You know, we're both human. We're both really passionate. We're both Tauruses. Hello.

Pallavi Sastry:

Literally, like the horns

Diane Foster:

two bulls, just like you know. But then we really appreciate each other. And we love each other so much that it's like, wait a minute, I really, you know, I have to take a step back Hold on a second, let's just what's going on here? Let's let's have this conversation and let's actually talk to each other. Let me listen. She's gonna listen, we're both going to listen to each other, we're both going to come to common ground. And that's something new in friendship, you know, as you get older, and you know, with women I think we get better and better at that as we age you know, we get better with age

Gabrielle Ruiz:

so and also making mistakes. Too many always making mistakes and learning from them. Because that's so you know, you can you can choose which righteous side you want to choose on that it's like, you know, I think I'm right, no matter what, or it's, I'm so sorry. And I also don't know what I did.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, yeah, I think just being okay with being wrong is definitely an exercise we can use in every friendship, you know, regardless of the issue, right? Yeah.

Diane Foster:

And when you're and when you have a strong personality and you have two people who have really strong personalities, sometimes you can collide and like I said, it's never ill meaning from either one of us it's just that's the way that we are naturally you know, and so I think it's it's coming to that common ground and and really listening to each other and saying that and that's that again, is really what I think friendship is all about is being able to step back and go Okay, I get it you know, and I'm just going to be quiet.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

No, really, Pallavi? I love diving deep into platonic love with you it has really gotten me through this pandemic.

Pallavi Sastry:

Same here Gabrielle and you know, we are happily working so hard to produce this slay content for all of our listeners.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yeah, that's why I'm so glad we joined Patreon.

Pallavi Sastry:

Hey, Patreon. Patreon is the opportunity for our listeners to get exclusive perks from us all while supporting our podcast dreams, what kind of perks Pallavi? Let me tell you about them perks. Okay, our Patreon page has tiers to choose from. So you can pick the off perks that speak to you, for example, just for joining as a waff friend, patrons automatically get access to the vodcast. Gabrielle tell them what a vodcast is.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

It's the video version of our podcast where you can see us and our guests friends interviewed on camera and wait for it. It's only $2 a month.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yes, it gets better. We are also offering the option to join us for a monthly WAFF live show and q&a.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Oh my God, that's amazing. So they can ask us about anything.

Unknown:

Not only can they ask us anything, there's even a few tiers where they could come on and win a chance to meet our guest friends to ask them anything.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Slay, slay, slay, you know, I think what we're most proud of is that 10% of all proceeds from our Patreon page, go to charity. So not only are we focusing on great content for you, we also get the opportunity to give back.

Pallavi Sastry:

So you're saying that all you got to do to get these perks is [email protected] slash waff. podcast that's W A F F podcast, and that directly helps us keep making the show.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

That's exactly what I'm saying. Because that's what friends are for. Now back to WAFF.

Diane Foster:

Hi I'm Diane Foster

Juno:

And I'm doing Juno the artists

Diane Foster:

and you're listening to what are friends for

Pallavi Sastry:

you know, we talk a lot about how and we we describe friendship, our go to terminology as platonic love, because it is a level of love and it is a level of commitment that is actually not unlike a romantic partnership. It actually requires the same tools and skills in order to nurture and grow friendships. Yes,

Diane Foster:

I looked at my life or life for wife or when I

Gabrielle Ruiz:

also work wife works too. Yeah. It's a it's a horns slamming doors kind of relationship to you. Yeah. There's a lot of there's a lot of trust in that. There's a lot of trust to be like, she'll come back. She just needs to cool off.

Juno:

She'll have her coffee and Clorox wipes to wipe off. Like you don't have paper towels. I like no, I don't have both have visits and just has a problem with everything you don't have. Walgreens is across the street girl.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Pallavi, Pallavi I'm gonna try this. doors that you next time we have a meeting on zoom. See how that goes. We've never done that I can't

Juno:

get up so fast though we come like, right back. Are you okay?

Diane Foster:

We're still friends. Right?

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, I mean, and I think that's I love that you guys are that you guys brought up the fact that you've had those blow ups. Because I think that a lot of a lot of us are conditioned, or our society conditions us to think that like, the friendships are supposed to be easy and always easy. And they're not supposed to like come with these sorts of fights that you normally associate with, like a boyfriend or a romantic partner of some kind. You know, any sort of non romantic relationship does have these sorts of moments. And it's I think it's just like if we're if the if the commitment is to growing, then it will be okay. And we always have a friendship expert on our seasons. And this season. Our friendship expert is Danielle buyer, Jackson, and I highly recommend you guys checking her out, I think you would love her. And she recently posted something that I think really buttons all of this up and it's a you know, why do we allow? And in her case, she wrote men Why do we allow men? Why do our girlfriends allow men to mess up hundreds of 1000s of times, but we only give our friends our girlfriends one try? One try? And it's because we're conditioned to think that being partnered is more valuable than

Juno:

Wow, am I gonna charge? Yeah, no, I agree with that. I think our society through media has has been indirectly taught that romantic love is the highest love, you know, every movie, whether it's Disney, you know, Disney could say princess get saved by the prince. Well, that's when everything is perfect. That's when the stars are, you know, saying like, when Cinderella was grinding it out, like, you know, I'm saying she was working on herself. That was self care. But it's like, you know, just the idea that, um, you know, romantic love, whether it's through a manner, you know, man and a woman, a man and a man or a woman, a woman or whatever combination of two people that are romantically involved involved, if you think about the difference between a romantic relationship versus a friendship was the sexual aspects of it of that. So if you remove that, you still have two people that have to get along compromise sometimes, and figure out how to coexist, you know, in spaces and in situations. And so, you know, with that, I think there's so many different levels of connections, like the connection I have with my grandma, well, that's not a sexual connection, but it's a very meaningful connection to me, the connection I have with, you know, a student, well, that's a very meaningful connection, that's not a romantic, real, you know, so there's so many different, even outside of friendship, I think layers of connections that human beings can have that are super valuable, that have no romantic involvement at all. And I just feel like we don't see a lot of that in our like entertainment. And in our, I mean, every once in a while, like, I know, we got the new best friend song. But, you know, in general, I feel like most people are like seeking out those romantic relationships. And sometimes you might overlook and not appreciate a friendship that's right around you, you know, I hear a lot of girls, you know, my girlfriend's, like, oh, man, like, I want a man that I can deal with, or, you know, I want a woman that I can deal with or whatever. And it's like, well, you can deal with your friends. If your lawyer and your doctor, your teacher, y'all make some money makes some shit up. Do somethin! And it's not just personal, like you could collaborate in business, you know, what I'm saying? There's so many different cool things that ways that you can intersect. And I think when you're open to that, as opposed to being narrow minded to think that those things should only happen in a romantic relationship, then you're going to experience most meaningful, much more meaningful connections, I mean, within your platonic relationships, family, family relationships, and all the relationships. So

Diane Foster:

yeah, I mean, I think every, you know, I think it's actually really important that you know, that you have friendships, you know, beyond having romantic relationships, I think having friendships really helps you be a better person. You know, like, again, I think it's about you know, showing up for other people, and being there for other people. And that does make you a better person, because it teaches you you know, the good and bad things about you. The things that you're willing to tolerate and not tolerate, you know, and actually, you know, if you can build friendships, and I truly believe that women you know, friendships are, are the best. You know, that we, we have the ability to to be there for each other and I think women are by nature, we're just, we're lovers and we want we truly want to be there for each other. I think I see a lot of it online, like Women coming after each other sometimes. And I really do hope that changes because I feel like we should we should constantly lift each other up women, you know, yeah, I think, you know, we, as a woman, we have those struggles. So let's be there for each other. You know,

Pallavi Sastry:

I, I am a serial like a, what is it from? I'm doing a total musical theater throwback but a cockeyed optimist, I would say.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

What is that

Pallavi Sastry:

a comment? Like meaning meaning like, you know, like a unrelenting optimist in a way, right? It's like a, but I'm also a realist. And so what I like to and I, to answer your question to answer your thoughts, Diane, I do think there is a shift happening only because we are, we are trying to systematically shift things in a lot of ways. And that is a level of understanding that a lot of us haven't entertained, right. And so I think with me, too, with Black Lives Matter, with politics the way that they are, and just like the climate of our country, in general, I think is forcing us to really reevaluate what what relationships we have.

Juno:

Oh, yes, yes.

Diane Foster:

Oh, like, Oh,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

thank you. And thank you to all the musicians, all the writers, all the producers, and every sort of pillar of any industry for starting to write our narratives correctly. Yeah. You know, writing music correctly. I never agreed with the boys mine song. Like I just was like, it's his fault. Doing. I mean, I bet you she's nice. She's nice.

Diane Foster:

Oh, true. We need to have more female voices, more female writers. It's so important, like I will, I'll watch a TV show or a movie. And sometimes the way that women are depicted, I'm like, I know, a man wrote this period. You know? It's like, that doesn't that's not the way that it is. But I think, you know, hopefully, we are getting away from that. And also, like, we just watched the and I won't give away any spoilers, but we watched the framing Britney Spears documentary last night. And yeah, oh, my God, so and I was lightning. Three ready for real. I was like, Whoa, this is so crazy. What I found so, so interesting, when we were talking about is that, you know, you really, truly would not get away with a lot of the stuff that was said in those interviews and stuff to her now, like, there's absolutely no way that they would be saying like, so let's talk about your breasts, like some man saying that, like, I just wanted to be like, you know, like, I couldn't believe it. All that stuff, you know, and no wonder, you know, all of this has gone on. And

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I wonder, right? No wonder my parents always kept me at church. So let's talk about your breasts.

Pallavi Sastry:

asking her Are you a virgin?

Diane Foster:

What man gets asked these questions like, so let's talk about your dick. You know what I mean? Like, nobody says that, like, I don't understand. Like, it's just crazy to me. So I do think that we thankfully are coming, you know, with obviously Me too. And all that stuff that we're we're we're getting stronger at being able to talk about it and say like, this is totally unacceptable. And we got to do something about this, because I was just like, I literally can't believe this was going on. And all of us are just like, walking around doing our life. Like, not going like, hey, that's really inappropriate.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Exactly. No, I appreciate that. But you know, the fact that you guys our friendship, your friendship in your relationship is so strong. we're so thrilled that you guys were able to come on what her friends for. And talk about that because the obsession with both of you is so strong, especially It's so inspiring because Pallavi and I are good friends working together. And it's just nice to see another version of that, especially the slamming door part. I think that's my favorite.

Juno:

Yeah. that's how it goes. Slam it hard

Gabrielle Ruiz:

And so if anybody wants to know what we're talking about junos boot camp, but we're talking about her their initiatives, and also see these Instagram posts that we're talking about, go check out our Patreon page, the public page, and you can see our WAFF blog there so you don't have to go searching for it. And let's transition into our final segment.

Pallavi Sastry:

First question, do you have none, one or multiple best friends?

Juno:

Multiple multiple. I'm a best friend ho.

Diane Foster:

That is true. Yeah, she is. She's got so many best friends. My best friend, my best friend.

Juno:

I get one from each season. I get a best friend from each season I got a high school best friend, kid guy best friend. You know what I'm saying?

Diane Foster:

She's silly. I would say same for me, I have multiple and it's like depends on the project. It depends on the thing that I'm doing. I just love having friends. So

Gabrielle Ruiz:

you're a best friend ho got it. That's gonna be in our lesson today. Maybe the meme and that's gonna be in our wolf index. What a best friend ho is

Juno:

yes, yes, it is. Because I have so many jokes but yes. I get threats from former best friends like this is enough. We can't. And I'm like no wait, I have one more tour I'm gonna do.

Pallavi Sastry:

Okay, second question now that we've had our laughing fit. Okay. How do you keep in touch?

Juno:

text?

Diane Foster:

Usually texts? Yeah, text or FaceTime? We FaceTime a lot.

Juno:

Yeah, we FaceTime text or FaceTime. Yeah.

Pallavi Sastry:

Okay, and now in one word or a hyphenate, What type of friend are you? Meaning some examples could be your problem solver. Your listener, you're needy, you're blunt, etc.

Juno:

Hmm. I think I'm very supportive.

Diane Foster:

I agree. Definitely. Um, I would say I am I Oh, gosh, this is kind of tough. I feel like I'm multi hyphenate. Um, I feel like I am supportive. Um, I am I can. Am I do you think I'm needy? I don't know. I don't think needy. Yeah, I don't think so.

Juno:

No, Diane is like the if I like let's go to Paris and bungee jump off the Eiffel Tower. She's like, Okay, what time she is down. Like she's that friend. This is down. I love that about her. Yeah.

Pallavi Sastry:

You're an enabler? Yes. Yes.

Diane Foster:

I definitely. I definitely. I'm the yes woman for sure. I also will say that I do feel like, um, I do, like the support of having a friend like, I feel like I reached out to you. And I'm like, I really need to talk. Right? So

Pallavi Sastry:

and what would you like to do better as a friend,

Juno:

maybe be a little bit softer. I'm kind of like the drill sergeant coach, sort of, like, you know, I'm very militant, because I love that. Like, I used to love watching those shows all morning when they're like, Oh, I get it together. Like, this is how I do very much like the flower yoga and I'm like, let's go let's go and like, rise and grind Twitter, you know, she's like, meditation. So like, I think I just need to work on just like, coming into her Zen space a little bit. As opposed to being like, let's grow let's grind let's integrity like.

Diane Foster:

I'm Always, like zen always, peace. Yeah, I think I'm, I think I'm going to continue to be a good listener, I think I'm going to I'm going to work on better listening. I've done a lot of work on that this year. And I feel like I am. I'm going to do that more and more and more, I just want to be a good listener and be there. You know, as a good friend, always.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

And finally, our classic final question, what our friends for

Juno:

to experience life with whatever that is the ups and downs, the good, the bad, the ugly, they're just there to experience it with you and whatever way that's possible. That's what I think friends are for.

Diane Foster:

I love that I think to live to laugh to love to experience to create you know to go on this journey together and really support each other and be there for each other and hopefully laugh slam some doors along the way and you know, be best friend's hos together forever.

Juno:

Awesome tampons. Oh yeah,

Diane Foster:

she's always wearing my clothes like

Juno:

I'm gonna wear this

Diane Foster:

I'm like you didn't ask.

Juno:

But yeah, best friends are just for everything. Just Express. I have a fun and wearing each other socks.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

And with that Juno the artists Diane foster thank you so much for coming on watch. Please rate and review this episode and let us know what you think what you think friends are for what kind of friend you are. Tell us all the scoop how you slam doors, because we are obsessed with you two friends and now like just like Diane said, as our friend the listeners. Go visit watch shop calm and by merch.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yes.

Diane Foster:

Yes, support, support, support support.

Juno:

Thanks, guys so much for having us. Thank you. Oh, thank you. That's awesome. You too. Bye. Bye.

Pallavi Sastry:

1234 This episode was produced by Team Access productions and Fast Nickel Inc. Our supervising producer is Philip Pisanchyn.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Our consulting producers are Kathleen Choe and Rose Harwood,

Pallavi Sastry:

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Gabrielle Ruiz:

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Pallavi Sastry:

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Pallavi Sastry:

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Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yeah. Go do that. Now.