What Are Friends For

Jaime Camíl: Cotorreando con Friends: Babbling with Friends

April 06, 2021 Gabrielle Ruiz & Pallavi Sastry Season 3 Episode 11
What Are Friends For
Jaime Camíl: Cotorreando con Friends: Babbling with Friends
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What Are Friends For
Jaime Camíl: Cotorreando con Friends: Babbling with Friends
Apr 06, 2021 Season 3 Episode 11
Gabrielle Ruiz & Pallavi Sastry

Gabrielle and Pallavi sit down with actor/producer Jaime Camíl and discuss the dynamics of Hollywood parties, swap parenting stories, and give each other pro-tips for their next dentist appointments. This high energy, fun conversation with Jaime will give you the urge to call your own dear friends and babble away!  

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Show Notes Transcript

Gabrielle and Pallavi sit down with actor/producer Jaime Camíl and discuss the dynamics of Hollywood parties, swap parenting stories, and give each other pro-tips for their next dentist appointments. This high energy, fun conversation with Jaime will give you the urge to call your own dear friends and babble away!  

Get 10% off your HydroJug order with code WAFF10https://www.thehydrojug.com/discount/FRIENDS  

Follow us everywhere @waffpodcast

Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/waffpodcast)

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Gabrielle Ruiz:

No really. What are friends for? Hey everyone, it's Gabrielle Ruiz.

Pallavi Sastry:

And I'm Gabrielle's best friend Pallavi Sastry, we this is like take to just a transparency for our friends because our friends are who listened to us all our listeners. Thanks, guys. And we were having a lovely discussion about how we can just babble on with our friends. Sometimes it doesn't have to mean anything. And I said, you know, babbling is you know, another word for that might be you have a key key with your friends, right?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

My dad might want my my dad and my babble. He was like, he loves to say, for the entire, like five minutes story he gives me in between. He's like, well, to make a long story short, and he never does like. And it's my favorite because I just kind of timing out and it comes out like every other minute. And so that's just me, I bet you I do that with my friends.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, I also make fun of myself when I do that. And I say So long story long. Yeah. And then. And then I might say to other people, but then depends on who it is. And they might take it the wrong way. So I really have to read the room when I use that one. But,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

but also like the inner circle babbling versus the outer circle babbling like who you talk to and making time for fans making time for people you see at a coffee shop frequently. I mean, you know if we still can do that right now and self to socially distance world is really interesting. And that's what I'm excited to talk about in this with our guest friend today because this guest friend like I just want to ask our listeners to leave us a voicemail and let us know if you ever have those outer circle friends that make you feel so incredibly amazing when you're around them even if it's like for a second or if it's for not over if it's for longer. I want to know what your stories are because that's who this guest friend is for me today.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, it's so refreshing to walk into a room and meet somebody for the first time and not have to work at it like they they're doing all the work for you like wow, this is easy. I just feel great

Gabrielle Ruiz:

or at least we think it's work for them and it's not like it's just like it's it's a natural exuberance of love that it just it's so admirable so I am so excited that everyone can have a chance to listen to this episode our watch it on our Patreon account. If you are a subscriber to actor producer starring in the upcoming Lorne Michaels Apple TV plus series Schmigadoon it's so much fun to say and we'll co executive producer and star and the ABC series Guerrillas and is also developing a new project opposite Al Madrigal okay with producer Jenny Snyder Urman bienvenido a mi amigo Jaime Camil.

Jaime Camil:

Gabriella Thank you so much for that beautiful introduction. I don't want to leave this podcast ever I want to leave.

Pallavi Sastry:

Please don't

Jaime Camil:

Yes, I'm just gonna be you know, how does zoom, you know, cut the little squares of people that are running on the zoom. I always want to have a permanent mini tiny thumbnail on your zoom just in the corner And your guests will be like, Who is this awkward person that Oh, yeah, we can go on. Let's just

Pallavi Sastry:

Well I don't have a problem with that. I mean, based on what Gabrielle has told me about you, this is the first time I'm meeting you Jaime and, and, you know, I can already tell that this exuberance that she is speaking of is definitely effortless for you know, admirable. Yeah. And so you know, having you as a thumbnail in every thing that I do on my screen would be fine with me.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

just face it. Jaime's face is basically our zoom vision board is

Jaime Camil:

for you both. Gabrielle you have to understand that you and I we pretty much do pretty much together we made the CW basically. Let's just be honest about your You and me baby You are welcome Mark Pedowitz

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Oh, Mark, you're so lucky that you were able to say you know what, I think they're the ones they're the ones that are going to save my network. Yeah,

Pallavi Sastry:

I love that for you both

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I got I hope, I hope I hope you listen to this episode that would make my day I would make my network

Jaime Camil:

I go to the dentist I go to the dentist for the happy gas. You know we all have our days

Gabrielle Ruiz:

it's a CW thing Rachel bloom loves that happy gas. She's like, why do you go to the dentist and not use that and I'm like, I sorry, you're pressuring me.

Pallavi Sastry:

Nobody's ever offered it to me I guess

Jaime Camil:

I went I went through a major I've never said this I went through a major reconstruct I had an accident. Oh yes, I went I so I could have use the happy gas more. But I did I didn't take advantage of that. And when they do know the old fashioned way with a little anesthetic directly.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

That's called called macho. Macho, Jaime.

Jaime Camil:

No it's called dumbass. It's called dumbass. No one ever offered me to happy guests. I'm like dude, now that I'm finishing my treatment I know that you have this

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Can I get some to go?

Jaime Camil:

Exactly!

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, this is so that you're listening to what our dentists for you guys right now like it's

Gabrielle Ruiz:

What are dentists for?

Jaime Camil:

I don't know. We should we should put it in some form. What our dentist for

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yes, yes, we'll just put that as a tag. At the end of this episode. We have a little special for our Patreon subscribers, Pallavi and I will sing it for you. We'll bring it to a send it to Jaime and he'll do the harmonies. Okay. Okay, perfect. Let's dive in. Because speaking of babbling

Singing:

Instafriends or reality yeah

Gabrielle Ruiz:

the Instagram story that we pulled from yours, which everyone can find on our wealth blog on our Patreon account, it's super easy to find and you can click it and go to Jaime's Instagram is from November 19 2020. Cotorreando Con Fans. Yeah. And that in translation is

Jaime Camil:

Echando in a way in Cuban you say echando muela which is like talking echando muela. That is very it's a very Mexican slang which is like chit chatting or talking with friends to use cottorreando a see it's it's pretty

Gabrielle Ruiz:

and and I have to say like like the dentist conversation like you are one of my favorite friends to speak to at a party

Jaime Camil:

same here

Gabrielle Ruiz:

at a moment because the story I was talking about in the beginning before introducing you was at the 2016 television Academy, like diversity party. It was like my first few months in Hollywood, and I even met I mentioned this to Carly Hughes and I think it's Episode 203

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, number three of our four of our first season together. Yeah,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

yeah, Episode 203 Carly Hughes is, our guest friend and I mentioned I said, I saw you at that party and I was like, you're a Broadway person. I need to make a friend. And so I went up to her. And then I saw you Jaime and I was like, Oh, that's Jaime from the CW. Oh, man. That's Jane The Virgin. Oh, okay. We know each other like we met once or something and you ran up to me You're like, Gabriella, why haven't you said hi to me yet. And then you hugged me

Jaime Camil:

Because I don't know you, crazy person time to call security now

Pallavi Sastry:

Now what I was gonna say is like, you know, so Gabrielle and I are both New York like Broadway transplants to LA right. So like for us, we're used to like we were told actually and I don't know if this plays into your opinion of this Gabrielle but like, we were told when we got to when we switched from New York in the theatre world into television and film that like everybody's a little bit more like, aloof and everybody's a little bit more like, you know, kind of to themselves at the parties and whatnot. And you know, theatrical people are like, very much like, open and and word. Yeah, a little more.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I think that's also the energy of both in comparison of cities to Yeah, I mean, like, you're just so you're so you know, what's the word like everything is thrown at you to your face in New York, like the subway versus being isolated in your car. You know what I mean? And so the energies are a little different. So I guess we were kind of forewarned that a hollywood party, which is not an opening party, there are very different kinds of parties here, for premieres that already happened, like the energies as well, very different when, with what the party's about, right? And so we were kind of, I guess, we came up with this idea thinking that you know

Pallavi Sastry:

because like it when you're at these things, it's like, there's a little bit of pressure put on you too, is like, you know, you're already thinking about your next thing that you're supposed to achieve and get in whatnot. So you're supposed to impress everybody you meet. Anyway, what I'm trying to say long story long.

Jaime Camil:

That also depends on the personality because I also come from theater, I started doing theater in Mexico, and I was in New York doing the Mambo kings on your I don't know if you remember the Mambo kings. We were doing that and then and then while I went back to a Broadway thing got to do Chicago because the frustration of not opening was way too stressful to handle and then thank God, I went back and everything was fine. But I also know it's Yeah, it's a we're different. It's, I want to say this a different breed. It's not it's just I think it has to do with with personalities. And yes, I agree with you as well that you know, theater people, Broadway people and Hollywood people there, there is a difference there. But at the end of the day, I think it has to do also with your upbringing and how you know how your personality because you can be an asshole being a cashier at Walmart. I mean, you're

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, and the thing is, is like you know, I think that To be fair, the assholes are few and far between I truly do believe that when you're at these parties, it's not like you're meeting assholes often it's just like, it's the it's the energy we bring, I think is like, you know, it's very much like you're saying due to our upbringing and our conditioning so it's refreshing quite honestly to like have that sort of familiarity in LA

Jaime Camil:

my my advice to anyone trying to work the town or arriving to LA is don't go to the parties don't go because everybody tells you No no, I got you a ticket your manager agent I got you a ticket I got you. I think you go to this party. But you stick out like a sore thumb like no one knows you It's clearly that you got to take it for whatever reason and you're there in this party and no one knows you and then you it's not like that I rather not I never went to those parties. I was like I want to I don't want to go why why because no one wants me there because I wasn't invited. I was not invited to the party so I want to be the only not known face or girls or guys thinking that they go to the party they might be able to advance their career or whatever but it's a very awkward situation it's a very situation

Gabrielle Ruiz:

well I felt that way and I felt also like in the first way that you know my dipping my toe in right into it like right when crazy x started happening I think you guys are in your second season of Jane The Virgin and again yet and killing it and you are just so it's such a warm embrace. I was just so happy that you were that way because when you meet people or you admire people from far away, it could change and that's okay if you actually end up talking to them and they're in a different you know, they're different they're in a different space you know, for some reason and it just was such such a wonderful thing which we love.

Jaime Camil:

Yeah, I'm a youtuber primary prime primarily because I'm very young and I'm relevant.

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Jaime Camil:

No. So my editor was like a dude, I saw I watched your live and I would like to make it into a YouTube video. Okay, sure. But really, should we? Yeah, yeah, we should. This is what I do for a living. Trust me this is. This is why you have your YouTube channel. Okay, great. Let's do it. So, so he took the gripe, but I do Instagram lives at least every three months. And I do this and I connect with fans, and I talk to them. And it was fun.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, I mean, I think again, like it's just one of those things where, like, people don't expect celebrities to do things like this, because they're like, yeah, we have we have, they have so much going on or whatnot. But I think whenever we do, part of what we love about doing a podcast is like we we make interaction, like one of our tenants, like it's one of our pillars, because I think like you're saying it keeps you relevant. Like, I don't think you would have known that, you know, putting up on YouTube would make you a little more accessible if you weren't putting yourself out there that way. Right?

Jaime Camil:

I agree. Yeah.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

And what is your like friendships with your fans when it comes to different countries? Like how do you feel about your American fans versus more like the Latino culture like is, is there a different kind of reaction or

Jaime Camil:

Without a doubt all all all territories are very different from each other? Right? I have a big fan base in Brazil for example of Brazil because of Ugly Betty the Mexican aversion idea without any kind of Ugly Betty was huge in Brazil I 15 years, we did this thing 15 years ago, and it's still relevant and they repeat this novella every single year, both in Mexico and in Brazil. So the Brazilian fans are super kind and neither super passionate as well. They're very very, very, very passionate. Then you have the Latin American fares which are which is that's that's my market. That's I mean, I'm from Mexico City. So of course that's those are my peeps, right? And then you have as well as Brazil because I'm half Brazilian My mom is Brazilian, so I write but and then and then you have the the the newly acquired American fans. Thank thanks to Jane and to all the projects I've been doing here in the in the US, but also, the blessing of this is that all the US Hispanics in the US that have followed my career through Telemundo or Univision, whatever now they're in the mix as well. I was just very nice you know, as as the as you know, having a beautiful and solid fan base. It's beautiful because they keep your career alive and your support. And I would like to think that my fans are very, you know, they're they're very grounded. They understand that I'm a married man that I have a family that I love my kids you know how to have some fans sometimes they let's say a girl fan that you know that hates your wife because your wife gets in the way of she being with you. You know this this Can

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I want that now I want that. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I don't want that problem.

Jaime Camil:

I know your husband. Please tell your husband to come in right now

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I'll go get Philip. Oh good. Is is

Jaime Camil:

being able to talk about when I met Philip dinner we talked about having kids or something right. I encourage this. I encourage

Gabrielle Ruiz:

you you you want you told us you want it to happen. And you wanted the baby boy or girl to be named Jaime I remember that. Oh, Jaime, do you want to see my bump?

Jaime Camil:

Of course I want to see your baby bump

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Oh my light!

Jaime Camil:

Oh, my God your bump fell.

Pallavi Sastry:

fell on the floor.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Oh, that's okay.

Jaime Camil:

Are you Yay! So do you have one or two kids.

Pallavi Sastry:

I have 1 18 month old daughter.

Jaime Camil:

Oh, cool. Cool. All right. Well, you you both need to get a second one. This is just this is this is not. This is not a request. This is not a question your job. You have to get another one. Right.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Jaime One and Jaime two.

Jaime Camil:

Right. Exactly. Because they implement each other very well. If I had the money and if I had the resources of having, I don't know 25 nannies I would have 10 I love kids kids are the best. But my wife and I Heidi we roll without nannies and without that, that that thing. So it's really really hard when you're committed full time parents, but so we have to win these great because eventually they're going to compliment each other eventually. I mean, don't get me wrong there. They're both going to become little assholes that you want to strangle eventually, eventually. Exactly. But that but they will entertain each other. And then eventually when they're like maybe I don't know when they're starting to travel or whatever. You're going to get your life back with your partner and yes. Yeah. Yeah.

Pallavi Sastry:

It's good to know. I'm glad to know I mean, yes. My 18 month old already has moments of being a little asshole. So

Jaime Camil:

Oh you ain't seen nothing yet sister.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Hey, I have a question for you have a parent question for you. And Alicia Rayner told me this last time I saw her

Jaime Camil:

I'm a very good parent. I swear to God, I thought you're very good parent.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Do you? Do you consider your children, your friends

Jaime Camil:

No you're the parent they're your they're your children and you're the parent and you're sure you should guide them and give them all the tools that you can or that your moral and ethical compass that I happen to think that mine are very well mine is very well calibrated and you've tried to give them tools and but at the same time if you go to that fret yes of I mean it is a very Gabrielle this is a very complex question

Gabrielle Ruiz:

it is I know that it is

Jaime Camil:

because because of course you want them to have the confidence of coming to you before they go to any one when they have any sort of question or or yes I do that or doubt or you want that then you want them to see you as the first resource of information of course and how you do that well you you are you present yourself accessible your percent yourself as we have a motto in the house that goes no one gets in trouble the when you tell the truth, no one even if you paint the sofa with Sharpies to create like a race car I don't care I don't care. And

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I agree on that.

Jaime Camil:

As long as we come clean it will tell the truth no one gets in trouble now we rely we get in trouble so I think that opens the door to be completely honest about things. And I just went through I just went to something with my daughter is nine years old. And I just went through something similar like I know she doesn't understand the concept of boyfriend yet and or girlfriend, but she has a friend and they call themselves boyfriend and girlfriend. Which is the cutest thing in the world as long as I get a Hold on that boy. But you know, they call each other girlfriend a boyfriend so for some reason, and I understand Heidi my wife because he's like, Oh, you know my inner hasn't boyfriend or so she calls him boyfriend whatever. And in she is not that she didn't want to tell me. But it was something that she want to keep secret with mom. Like you know, it wasn't like a girl talk. But I'm like I I do respect that. And then they made a little joke might my brother and my and my wife made I'm Joke like oh don't tell your Your dad Your dad's gonna freak out. Right? Yeah. Which

Gabrielle Ruiz:

is which is like a stereotype but

Jaime Camil:

you have to be careful because also stereotypes can start to close the door as I can talk to my dad about everything. So of course I let one week pass by and then I was giving them a shower and I'm like mi amor you know, you can tell me anything right? I don't know there's but I just want you to be happy. I want you to know that you can tell me anyone I will. I will approve any thing you do. And you will have my full on support. I may give you want to base your on advisor but you can. So I opened that door like and then we fixed it was fixed.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

And you're like What's his name? Where does he live in who are his parents?

Pallavi Sastry:

What is what's your social security number?

Jaime Camil:

Unfortunately, he's no longer with us.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

There's no chitchat with that gentle with that person.

Jaime Camil:

I remember my dad when my sister Alexia in kindergarten or something and they said like I like I like this kid a lot. And my dad went like, what does he do for a living? And I'm like, No, he goes to kindergarten like, plays with toys like what do you what kind of dumbass question is that?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

He plays very good. He's very good at the monkey bars. Well, everyone that's listening to this episode, please do yourself a favor, subscribe to our Patreon because it's the unedited version of this episode. That has been so much fun. We could go on and on and on. But we love to keep it at 30 minutes but like listen with when it comes to Jaime, come here like you can talk we can talk for like hours.

Jaime Camil:

You can then you can edit it. Don't worry. You can

Pallavi Sastry:

I'm sorry. Yeah, we're not worried at all. This is gonna be great.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Whatever you want. I'm sorry. No, honestly, we're just getting we're just trying to get people to subscribe. Okay.

Jaime Camil:

People pay

Gabrielle Ruiz:

ridiculous just subscribe. You got a baby to brave this world and a pandemic. gotta save my coins. You know what Amen.

Jaime Camil:

Babies are expensive. People think babies Don't you know, you will think they don't poo as often as you they do. They do poo often. Oh, yeah. And sometimes. I don't want to discourage you got to Gabrielle, but.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Too late. Go tell me.

Jaime Camil:

Sometimes. Well, I mean, but Pallavi won't let me lie but sometimes they poop, they start here and they end up here. You just grab the kid. Just rinse a little bit

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Hose em down, just hose them down.

Pallavi Sastry:

First question. Hi, May is do you have none, one or multiple best friends.

Jaime Camil:

I would say I count them with The the fingers of one hand, and I have fingers left. Okay, and I have fingers to spare. That's that sounds so wrong. That sounds so politically incorrect.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

So we're gonna, we're gonna call it and we're gonna make a meme out of it. And that's

Pallavi Sastry:

gonna actually like draw, it will animate your hand and the thumbnail. Okay, next question. How do you keep in touch?

Jaime Camil:

I keep in touch? Well, I think we have moved to the text messaging thing, right? It used to be via call. For now, I think we all stay in touch via text, unfortunately. Some voice memos, sometimes voice memos. And then I'm like, you know, this is nonsense. We have to talk these over the phone and I just call and, and we have conversations, but more than I think we have all migrated to text messaging, right?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I hear that's also a parenting thing. Because there's no time. Right? There's a time you get to it when you get to it. Right? So

Pallavi Sastry:

voice memos are helpful as a parent, I will say that, yeah. Okay, so next question. In one word, or a hyphenate, what type of friend are you? Are you some examples might be a problem solver. You're a listener,

Jaime Camil:

I'm 100,000,000%. giver, I gave a gift to my friends. I get whatever you need. What can I do for you? What can I What do you need? Why? What can I do for you? Who you want to call? What do you want to get in touch with him? I just, I'm always I'm always trying to, to, to get whatever we can. I mean, that's friendship. Pretty much. That's a true instance, your friendship you will always trying to provide to your your, your friends, right?

Pallavi Sastry:

I love that. I love that a provider a giver. Yeah. Okay, and what would you like to do better as a friend,

Jaime Camil:

I think that we should all respect how we approach a friendship. But there are some things that you might expect from a friend and at this exact kind of a contradiction. Because he's like, yeah, I respect the way you are a friend, but I would have liked for you to call me when I achieve this or when this happened in my life, right? Sometimes I think I'm not that like, I don't keep like a calendar of all I should do this and everything. But at the same time, people should respect how you approach friendship as long as as long as you're not an asshole and you are a true friend and you're really come through to your friends. I think that there's a saying in Mexico that we say los amigo so conocen in la cama y en la casen So real friends, you know, real friends when you're sick in bed, or when you're in prison, like meaning when you're in trouble or when you really need someone that's what so I have friends that for example, I might not talk to them for a year, because we are both doing our thing. But I know that if I pick up the phone right now, that friends going to be is going to come through for me. And the same way that my friends know for a fact that if they need me, there's no hesitation whatsoever and they know that I'm going to come through for them. Bueno mi mejor amigo y bueno para ser una mejor amigo tenemos que respetar ovviamente como cada quien e no e representa o de muestra la mistar que tienes por personas pero me gustaria de repenta a veces yo se algunos amigos puede que esperen un poco mas o puede que creer que yo debedia esta representen ciertos momentos de su vida o no a veces no puedo por trabajo o no puedo por constancia pero por lo menos yo se que mis amigos pongo yo los necesite estan alli para mi y mis amigos saben que si ellos me necesitan a mi No hay ninguna duda a respecto de que voy estar yo aye para ellos.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

then finally Jaime, What are friends for?

Jaime Camil:

I think friends are the family you choose friends are like the family you choose to be part of your family your extended family right and sometimes friends are even closer to you than even brothers or sisters sometimes. So I think friends are there you know that is they're your extended family and sometimes you can rely more on them than your actual family members and that's and that's beautiful.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Jaime Camil is so nice to have you on What are friends for?

Jaime Camil:

I don't like this 30 minute nonsense this podcast should go on for two hours.

Pallavi Sastry:

We're all capable you'll just have to come back well maybe we'll do like a zoom session. You can cotorreando with our friends too.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

And we look forward to all your new projects coming up and we will keep in touch thank you for rating reviewing the show. Thank you Pallavi for also being here. Being My friend and now being friends with Jaime Camil

Pallavi Sastry:

yes, I'm so honored Jaime Thank you so much and we'll see you guys next week Yes. Bye

Jaime Camil:

Gracias guys

Pallavi Sastry:

1234 This episode was produced by Team access productions and Fast Nickel Inc. Our supervising producer is Philip Pisanchyn.

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