What Are Friends For

Danae Mercer: OG InstaFriend

April 13, 2021 Gabrielle Ruiz & Pallavi Sastry Season 3 Episode 12
What Are Friends For
Danae Mercer: OG InstaFriend
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What Are Friends For
Danae Mercer: OG InstaFriend
Apr 13, 2021 Season 3 Episode 12
Gabrielle Ruiz & Pallavi Sastry

This week, Gabrielle and Pallavi  are joined by journalist and self-love advocate Danae Mercer. The three explore their struggles with body image, and the challenge of showing and accepting their real selves on social media. 

To seek help or speak to someone about your experiences with Eating Disorders, visit
https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/help-support/contact-helpline 

Get 10% off your HydroJug order with code WAFF10https://www.thehydrojug.com/discount/FRIENDS 

Follow us everywhere @waffpodcast

Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/waffpodcast)

Show Notes Transcript

This week, Gabrielle and Pallavi  are joined by journalist and self-love advocate Danae Mercer. The three explore their struggles with body image, and the challenge of showing and accepting their real selves on social media. 

To seek help or speak to someone about your experiences with Eating Disorders, visit
https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/help-support/contact-helpline 

Get 10% off your HydroJug order with code WAFF10https://www.thehydrojug.com/discount/FRIENDS 

Follow us everywhere @waffpodcast

Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/waffpodcast)

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Why Thank you Pallavi and contrary to popular belief, it's not just from my pregnancy.

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Pallavi Sastry:

Now back to WAFF. The following episode contains discussion of sensitive subject matter including eating disorders and body shaming. Our discussion may be triggering for some so listener discretion is advised. We recognize that every individual is on a different path on the journey to self love and acceptance and what are friends for podcast. We strive to cultivate a safe space to listen to uplift and honor each other's experiences. To seek help or speak to someone about your experiences with eating disorders visit WWW dot National Eating disorders.org No really What are friends for friends are for evolving together I'm Pallavi Sastry

Gabrielle Ruiz:

and I'm Pallavi his best friend Gabrielle Ruiz This is an A Hey Pallavi How you doing? This is like a good morning Pallavi how are you doing?

Pallavi Sastry:

A good morning? How are you doing?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I am so proud of myself that we are on time I felt like getting ready for our guest who is literally on the other half side of the world. We are so excited to have her but before we bring her on, I just want to say how proud of myself I am like in isolation but I felt like I was going on set this morning. I got up and I was like I gotta get cute I got to be on time I got to put makeup on you didn't mean like it was just it was I would say like you would think like oh I have to get up but I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Pallavi Sastry:

I don't know about you but I don't get cute for I get to set because they're gonna make me cute when I get there. So like, I was like, I'm impressed that you even think about getting cute before you get to set this early.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Well, it depends on the gig.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah. But before we bring our guests on I just want to say that this is a true like What are friends for manifestation moment because yes, this person. Exactly. I want to say like at the end of our last season as we were making our dream list and she was literally like a pie in the sky dream list, sort of ask. So it's sort of like this is very much like we're very giddy. So without further ado, we have health and travel journalist, media consultant, content creator, public speaker and self love activist Miss Danae Mercer's on the program.

Danae Mercer:

Hi.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Good evening it's 12 hours. you're in pm and our am Is that correct? In Dubai?

Danae Mercer:

Yeah, exactly. We are 7:30pm right now.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Oh my gosh. How was your day?

Danae Mercer:

Do you know it was good I studied some Italian I played with my cats usual really my wildlife?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yeah, the usual wildlife I saw on your stories that you're fostering little kittens right now.

Danae Mercer:

I'm I'm not my and my neighbor is so I get to give them cuddles. You get to Walk in they get to leave and not clean up poo poo. Yeah. They poop everywhere they just poo

Gabrielle Ruiz:

what a life that's a good life. go ahead.

Pallavi Sastry:

So what? What brought you to Dubai? Right? You're currently in Dubai?

Danae Mercer:

Uh yeah, yeah. I well I came out here for work. I was the editor of women's health Middle East and men's health Middle East and then I stayed on just as a freelance try travel and health journalist. And that's kind of changed a bit since COVID. But here I am.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Do you miss travel?

Danae Mercer:

Yes, desperately. I was. I was gonna go spend a whole summer in California right before COVID hit so yes, I really miss travel.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah. Is that where you were living before you went out to Dubai?

Danae Mercer:

It's where I'm from originally is I bet I'm a Cali girl.

Pallavi Sastry:

Okay,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

well, California says Hey, girl, we're wave at the sky for you right now.

Danae Mercer:

You know la kind of intimidates me though. I feel like because I was raised in the Midwest like I'm from Cali, but I was a Midwest girl. And I feel like LA is so big.

Pallavi Sastry:

Where in California you from

Danae Mercer:

Fresno

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Slay I will wave to Fresno from afar I won't drink for you. Just so you know. No hate for Fresno listeners. But listen, I'm not going over there. I'm not I'm not going to Starbucks

Pallavi Sastry:

you're also eight months pregnant so I don't expect you to go anywhere.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Listen, I got compression socks yesterday I am here to stay oh well. Anyway, we are so excited to have you on our what are friends for show everyone that is listening right now. Thank you so much for subscribing and rating and reviewing and letting us know what your thoughts on what we spoke about today because this is such an amazing reality moment Instafriends or Reality, yeah When I fell upon your body, love self love Instagram I saw insta versus reality a lot in your hashtags. It after being blown away by your advocacy. I was like that's it. This is like our segment. This was like our first time we were making it a thing which was last season Instafriends or reality. And I was like she gets it she I just want to be so excited after being blown away by you and you know just who you are. So we're just so happy that we can have Instafriends or reality with the lady of insta versus reality today.

Danae Mercer:

Well, thank you that is I mean such a kind thing to say. And I'm really excited to be here really excited.

Pallavi Sastry:

We wanted to bring up a post from December 23 2020. I'm going to read an excerpt from the caption it says my friend Kaylee Dawson and I had been lifting heavy and we did a Christmas Day beach shoot to celebrate our baby gains. around a year later, I felt ready to post the pic with my cellulite. I had started to realize that my wobbles and wiggles didn't make me wrong. They just made me me. And that was awesome. I'm proud of both pics. I'm proud of both moments, both stories that they tell. And the reason we pick that post, obviously because it's with a friend that you took that with took that photo. So our question around it is like the the extra layer of insta versus reality of that photo. First of all, how well do you and Kaylee know one another? And did you discuss the thought process that you were having of posting these photos with her before? during or after posting?

Danae Mercer:

Yeah, I mean, okay, Kaylee is one of my best, best best friends like, I'm the maid of honor and her wedding whenever that's going to happen. So

Gabrielle Ruiz:

yeah, you're committed. You're hearing that

Danae Mercer:

Yeah, I'm, I'm in that idea. But yeah, I've I've been friends with her for years. And she's, she's an incredible athlete, like probably one of the best athletes I know. And for that picture, like we, we took that picture before I started to talk extensively about self love about cellulite about stretch marks. And I remember, like, we were training really hard at that point, because she's also a personal trainer. So I was always just tagging along, like, work in my little muscles. And that morning, we were both in in the UAE for Christmas. So we did like a morning workout. And then we were like, well, let's go. Let's go celebrate everything we've done and all of our hard work. Let's go take some pictures. And I remember she wanted to do a picture of facing away from the camera and I was really uncomfortable with that. Like I didn't say oh no, let's not do it. But in my heart. I was like oh But I've got cellulite, and it's gonna show up and they're gonna see it. And I know I'm not going to use those pictures and like, her butt's gonna look great. So anyways, we, we took the photos, and I didn't even say anything about at the time, but I didn't, I certainly didn't post that picture I posted, like, front facing ones or like posed ones from the side. But then, yeah, a year, a year or two later, I was ready, I was ready to, I guess just show that and show the fact that I think especially with women, we often feel a sense of comparison, even between close friends. And so part of my reason for posting that was to show like, it's okay, if your body is different from your friends, it's okay. If you have things you're still learning to love. It's okay. If maybe your journey you're, you know, you're not ready to share those images, but you take them because you want the memories like, it's okay, wherever you are. And that's incredible. So that's kind of the process.

Pallavi Sastry:

How was that? You know, because sometimes it can, it can feel really awkward to tell somebody who loves you, and you and they know that you love them. And, and tell them that like, you know, you're you're feeling uncomfortable about like, you know, you're like compared you know what I mean? Like that's a that's an awkward subject to broach. So, you know, and I can tell you, you know, anecdotally I can say, and I haven't told Gabrielle this before, and she's like, you know, we've been friends for 15 years. And you know, when we take group photos with our girlfriends, I try to always be in the middle so that I can turn and like be a little more, I guess hidden is, and I'm laughing because it's so uncomfortable to share that right now. You know. So I'm wondering, there was some hesitation on your part of like talking about that with her?

Danae Mercer:

Well, I think I think that's a very common feeling, right, like I was, and I think it depends on the person. But to put in perspective, I was, I was on a shoot for work. And I was surrounded by athletes like these incredible women who are so beautiful. And my instinct is I'm really tall. There's a lot of height to me as well. And I've it's something a photographer once commented to me about on a trip, like he came over and he was like, like, Hey, you know, you could, you could lunge in all your photos, you could say you're not so tall. Yeah. So you're not like crouching, but your body still upright, but you're actually from like, the waist down. You're doing a squat or

Gabrielle Ruiz:

a lunge. sounds like a lunge

Danae Mercer:

Exactly

Gabrielle Ruiz:

like right? I warmed up for this, great.

Danae Mercer:

Like squatting around. And, you know, I like in this group with all these girls, like my instinct is to go to the back it is to kind of, I guess pushed everyone else to the front. And I think I think that's something that, you know, we all have to navigate in our own ways. But with this with this particular photo, I spoke to Kaylee before I posted the caption because, you know, I would never want it to be kind of that opposite where it's like, what my body's real and hers isn't because it's perfect. And isn't that disgusting? Isn't that shameful? And Isn't she so vain and all those horrible things that sometimes like because so many of us are suffering or in pain like or projecting or struggling like we say those sorts of things. So I would never want that. The opposite side. But I mean Kaley is so balanced that she was just like yeah, that's fine. Like Yeah, that's a great picture. Yeah, you post it. Like Wasn't that a fun memory? Like

Gabrielle Ruiz:

all this thought process going through making sure you say it right. And you want to make sure you bless that person and uplift them and then all of a sudden it's just a yeah sure

Danae Mercer:

that's I think that just describes a day in my life Really?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

No, really, Pallavi? I love diving deep into platonic love with you it has really gotten me through this pandemic.

Pallavi Sastry:

Same here Gabrielle and you know, we are happily working so hard to produce this slay content for all of our listeners.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yeah, that's why I'm so glad we joined Patreon.

Pallavi Sastry:

Hey, Patreon and Patreon is the opportunity for our listeners to get exclusive perks from us all while supporting our podcast dreams.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

What kind of perks Pallavi?

Pallavi Sastry:

let me tell you about them perks Okay, our Patreon page has tiers to choose from so you can pick the WAFF perks that speak to you, for example, just for joining as a wall friend, patrons automatically get access to the vodcast Gabrielle tell them what a vodcast is.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

It's the video version of our podcast where you can see us and our guests friends interviewed on camera and wait for it. It's only $2 a month.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yes, it gets Better, we are also offering the option to join us for a monthly WAFFlive show and q&a.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Oh my God, that's amazing. So they can ask us about anything.

Pallavi Sastry:

Not only can they ask us anything, there's even a few tiers where they could come on and win a chance to meet our guest friends to ask them anything.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Slay slay slay you know, I think what we're most proud of is that 10% of all proceeds from our Patreon page, go to charity. So not only are we focusing on great content for you, we also get the opportunity to give back.

Pallavi Sastry:

So you're saying that all you got to do to get these perks is [email protected] slash waff podcast, that's w a F F podcast, and that directly helps us keep making the show. That's exactly what I'm saying. Because that's what friends are for. Now back to waff.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

You know, I had to learn that lesson with friendship conversations that predicting the results before they even happened. And for me, when it comes to saying, Hey, I'm uncomfortable with you saying that, or Hey, you know, that it didn't go so well. And it's just I practice in the shower. I don't know if you guys do that. But like, I practice in the shower, that's where I do it. And I'm just like, I go through what I want to say, cuz I just always want to make sure like, I get my either resentment out or anxiety out before I or it being about me, you know, cuz we all I think that is a deserving step of the process to mourn, you have to just filter that out. And then you add on body, right, you add on image you add on mirror, and just having to talk about that specific thing. This is a very, very vulnerable conversation.

Danae Mercer:

But I also feel like and I don't know if you feel this way, when you have your conversations with those friends outside of the shower, but once you do it. I've just been talking to my cats these days. So I really am not one.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

You get it, you got it.

Danae Mercer:

But, but I do think like when we have those vulnerable conversations, when we do kind of open ourselves up and say, you know, this about me makes me uncomfortable. Or, gosh, I wish I had that. And I'm not jealous, but like it's because I'm struggling with my own thing, that it can in a way really strengthen friendships because yes, well many of us are dealing with that we just don't communicate it.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Hmm. I love it. And I feel like with with us on waff, having forcing those conversations through like just an episode a season of shows. We feel like having you on this today is just so helpful for everyone else that is struggling with those conversations. If you have any questions for Danae after this episode, or if you feel like you can relate and go follow her go see what she does, as well as you can leave us a voice message on waffpodcast.com and let us know like how you are also working through these conversations with friends because it is very open. It's very, I grew up in Texas, with women pulling each other down, and not celebrating each other no matter what the subject was or what the topic was. And so to spin that on its ugly head has been so enlightening. So I can do that. I can give that to the next generation. And so you also do that very well today. So thank you.

Danae Mercer:

That's a beautiful thing to say.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

This is not the end of the show, though. We're not wrapping Don't worry.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah. But I mean, your impact on your followers, you know, yes creates the conversation between you and them. Like you want to invite them into the conversation and you often share that you dedicate yourself to answering every dm and question in your comments to your posts. Last season. We had a guest Harvey Guillen is a lovely actor, coined the index term we call it the waff index. He called it a friendship tier cake. Meaning like as your friends you know, the your, your closest inner circle is at the top of it at the top of the cake because it's the smallest amount of space and and then and so on expands from there. Yeah. And so for someone like you, who has such a virtual audience, you know, how, how do you navigate trying to give yourself have to them, you know, and also preserve yourself because giving so much of yourself to that bottom tier of the cake can be really draining, you know, so how do you how do you be there for them? And I think it's this is applicable in any tier. It's so I'm curious to know your thoughts.

Danae Mercer:

It's it's a great question. I mean, I so I, I actually I don't respond to every dm I read every dm but responding is a dream one day, but I Oh, gosh,

Pallavi Sastry:

no judgment.

Danae Mercer:

But it's a good question because I think one thing I had to learn very quickly is that some of the stories a lot of the stories that come to me are so heavy and filled with pain and filled with Whether it's I'm starving myself, do I have an eating disorder or I talked to my mom and I said, I was throwing up, she doesn't believe me, or, you know, my friends making fun of me or my partner or this or that, and it's, it's heavy stuff, it's voices who just want to be heard. And that is, you know, it's there's, there's so much pain there that the instinct is you want to reach out, and you want to say, like I am here, and I will help you. And I think one of the things that helped me navigate that, because I had to learn very quickly, I cannot, there's no conceivable way that I could, you know, if I, if I were to be in my DMS every hour of the day, I still wouldn't scratch the surface. And so I that's why I created the our Facebook group, which is now 26,000 women. And it's a moderated safe space for women and girls, to interact with each other, talk to each other and talk about the things that so many of us want to share and that they share with me. But then they have a community of supportive women around them to, to answer that and uplift them together. And then I think, I also find I balanced by I'm a massive introvert, like a massive introvert, like, people see me online, and they think I'm really loud. And I'm in the center of attention. And I'm not I'm like, I'm the girl with the book in the corner. Like, that's me,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I love it

Danae Mercer:

So I just make sure I spend a lot of time like, kind of with myself, and then with with that top that like top little bit of the cake, because that really fuels your soul. It's kind of it's like that tasty food?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yes.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, for sure. Now, I understand that it can be draining social media as a as a vehicle itself is, is draining, you know, so I can understand that you really have to draw the line, and we can't solve problems for everybody, because we don't really have the answers for everybody. You know.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

And, and you also want to inspire and be inspired by other people as well, this is a community This is not a, you know, I think there are appropriate places to get those answers. And I think a therapist, I think a psychologist or a family member that you know, that you can have those conversations with. And social media can open a ground of personable intimacy that also is an insta versus reality moment, you know, and to feel like you're seen to feel like you're heard through another person's post that is about something that is extremely sensitive and intimate, opens up that perspective that you're reachable. And so it's, it's definitely a balance and something to feel like you don't have, it also shouldn't be a burden for anybody to be responsible for that. So I really love that it you know, to to read them all and to send love, like in a huge, like, post that is for everyone definitely has a balance to it. Yeah,

Danae Mercer:

yeah. And I like I like that you mentioned, you know, recommending them to therapists, I think that's something like, like, I studied politics, journalism, I'm a journalist, you know, at the end of the day, like I am, sat here all the time with these different experts being like, you know, so much more than I could ever even start to. So I would never, like I would never be comfortable sitting on the other side of the screen to someone and being like, yes, you have this problem. And here's your solution. And like, this is how you fix it, you know, I just would I would feel so immensely uncomfortable. And I think I think you're right, it's it's recommending them to the right places. It's finding that balance.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yeah. And what's what's relatable for me is body shaming. I mean, for for me, I am pregnant, I'm eight months pregnant right now and, and also in isolation. So people are only seeing me shoulder up and not seeing my growth, you know, and seeing my development, and there has been a moment of where some friends have been, like, Girl look at your boobs. And it's so funny. Maybe funny is the wrong word, because that's how I'm asking it, but it's so interesting, that I'm not being looked at in public. Right. And so when it happens, it's, it's, um, it's, it's, it's rare. You know, it's more rare, I would say than usual. So then I get a little like, that's interesting. Like, to point that out when I wasn't even. It wasn't even part of the subject has made me feel a little like, maybe I should have a conversation with someone. You know, because I don't feel like it's for me, you know, and I don't feel like that comment is necessarily all about me. You know, and you Like even like my mother said something like, well get ready because you're gonna get bigger and it's really hard to take off. And I and I say this publicly because we had a conversation about it because for four days, I felt shamed. for four days, I was sad that I was hungry for my baby, you know, three times extra than usual. And I was like, fuck that, because I'm hungry. And I got a baby to feed. And also as a dancer, as a dance professional. My body is my work. My body is my criticism. And it's my choice to be put to put myself in that room in a leotard and tights and let people criticize me. It's my choice. I chose that in my career. And it hurts and it doesn't hurt sometimes. And I and I had to tell her, I was like, You need to understand what you're saying, and how it affects me. And she went into like, well, her history and how she felt like she was a big kid. And I was like, oh, there's the love, you know, like it and it comes. I hope that when you have these conversations, and the reason I share that is like, when you come with a vulnerable, honest, like, hey, this really made me feel that way. Maybe you don't know or you do. But I just need to come forward with that. And she was like, I had no idea that was happening to you.

Danae Mercer:

Well, as an expert I spoke to recently, actually, she was a therapist I was talking to for something. And she put this in a really beautiful way, right? Where she said, instead of setting boundaries, which can feel kind of scary, especially like people like me, I'm non confrontational. I'm sunshine and roses, you know? And the thought of telling someone like, no, that's wrong, freaks me out. It's not my thing. But instead of saying, Okay, I'm going and I'm setting a boundary. It's you're giving someone who you love and they love you, you're giving them a roadmap, and you're saying, like, your map, what's inside of you is different to what's inside of me. And here's, here's some areas that we don't go, here's some ways you can navigate that, like, this is this is a nice drive, you know? Yeah, right. And I think that it's, it's, that's what it sounds like you did with your mom in a way as you you sort of gave her that roadmap and you're like, and then she opened up. And that's, I think that's the beauty of when we do communicate, especially around bodies, in a way that isn't an attack or shaming or ripping someone else down.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Exactly. Yes, and I think a friendship roadmap is something that we can create, like this should make a whole roadmap.

Pallavi Sastry:

That's that's the index word out of it.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Today, we're gonna send it to you and you're gonna be like, I think we're gonna just like make a little bumpy rock here, make a little hill, there's a dam and it's gonna explode if it overflows.

Danae Mercer:

I like they were really going out for the nature and you're my roadmap is like I imagined like cartoons like Mario like,

Pallavi Sastry:

squirrel. For sure, no, but I mean it to to lovingly bottom line this topic, you know, we can we I think we can all agree that when when there's a stigma or a self conscious thing, or a trigger that we're dealing with, you know, we we will always it'll always work best if we approach that conversation. Knowing already the heart of the other person like of course, Gabrielle you know, your mom loves you never want to hurt you. Of course, when I talk to my friends, if they say something, I know their heart, they love me. Why would I want to make them feel worse? Because I'm about to tell them hey, can we like change the way we talk about that? You know, like, you know, there's no reason for us to I totally agree with you Danae that like boundary setting a boundary sounds like you are like putting up an axe you know, instead of opening the door to conversation

Singing:

Lightning Waff

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Okay, so Danae Do you have none one or multiple best friends?

Danae Mercer:

I would say I'd say multiple because I think you love people in different ways. So multiple

Gabrielle Ruiz:

and how do you keep in touch

Danae Mercer:

Ah, gosh, I mean I'm a real I like to write as you could probably tell so i i like i like messages a lot. I like messages a lot and but we also voice note, phone calls and zoom. Send a lot of stupid memes I love stupid memes.

Pallavi Sastry:

Listen to some stupid memes.

Danae Mercer:

I love them. They're they make me so happy.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I just sent an Anna Green Gables one to see you know, I don't know why that happened. It happened in one word. In one word or a hyphenate. It is acceptable as well. What kind of friend are you are you for example like a problem solver listener, needy, blunt cactus friend. You can be creative whatever you want.

Danae Mercer:

Gosh, I kind of friend of mine. I would say I'm I'm like a like a mushy Friend mushy like, like, like, okay, you know that kind of jello that's clear and full of sparkles and it's like you touch it you're like, Oh, this feels nice. Like I just want to give it a cuddle. I

Pallavi Sastry:

like that is that's the tactile

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I love it

Danae Mercer:

but you know, I did my, my love languages quiz and I was 95% touch so maybe it just maybe it's just coming out you know, I'm just playdough

Gabrielle Ruiz:

You're sparkly playdough I love it. And what would you like to do better as a friend?

Danae Mercer:

I would like to be better at vocally or physically vocally calling or physically seeing my my close friends.

Pallavi Sastry:

And finally Danae, our iconic question, What are friends for?

Danae Mercer:

I'd say friends are the people who feel like family. They're that safe space that, you know, you can always turn to.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Well with that we are just again, so thankful that you were here today. We've admired you from afar and now we get to be friends with you. 12 hours away, and everyone that's listening. Please go check out Danae Mercer and all the things she has a podcast that is so uplifting and so wonderful. If you want to check out her Instagram her or even TikTok are you a tiktoker

Danae Mercer:

I yeah, but TikTok does not love me but I'm there.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

TikTok is soy hard.

Pallavi Sastry:

I've been following that. I've been following that story. So we'll we'll repost all those things and you give the updates but it's a pleasure. Pleasure. Pleasure to have you here.

Danae Mercer:

Thank you so so much. This is really fun.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Talk more soon. Bye.

Pallavi Sastry:

1234 This episode was produced by Team Access productions and Fast Nickel Inc. Our supervising producer is Philip Pisanchyn

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Our consulting producers are Kathleen Choe and Rose Harwood lead production

Pallavi Sastry:

assistant is Anna Dannecker digital content director is Suzi Cabello, our production assistants of Daniela Heredia Vega, Solaire Olsen and Megann Billedo

Gabrielle Ruiz:

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Pallavi Sastry:

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Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yeah. Go do that. Now.