What Are Friends For

Lilan Bowden: Friends, happiness, YAY

May 04, 2021 Gabrielle Ruiz & Pallavi Sastry Season 3 Episode 15
What Are Friends For
Lilan Bowden: Friends, happiness, YAY
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What Are Friends For
Lilan Bowden: Friends, happiness, YAY
May 04, 2021 Season 3 Episode 15
Gabrielle Ruiz & Pallavi Sastry

Gabrielle and Pallavi are joined by actor, comedian, and director - Lilan Bowden. The three discuss ways to stay connected to their best friends during the pandemic. They are full of ideas: from exchanging goods, to scheduling phone calls, and imagining the center pieces they will snag from weddings once the pandemic is over! May is Asian American & Pacific Islander Heritage Month. WAFF will be amplifying AAPI voices throughout the month, starting with the incomparable, @yourfriendlilan. 

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Show Notes Transcript

Gabrielle and Pallavi are joined by actor, comedian, and director - Lilan Bowden. The three discuss ways to stay connected to their best friends during the pandemic. They are full of ideas: from exchanging goods, to scheduling phone calls, and imagining the center pieces they will snag from weddings once the pandemic is over! May is Asian American & Pacific Islander Heritage Month. WAFF will be amplifying AAPI voices throughout the month, starting with the incomparable, @yourfriendlilan. 

Get 10% off your HydroJug order with code WAFF10 https://www.thehydrojug.com/discount/FRIENDS 

Follow us everywhere @waffpodcast

Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/waffpodcast)

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Pallavi Sastry:

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Gabrielle Ruiz:

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Pallavi Sastry:

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Gabrielle Ruiz:

Now back to WAFF

Lilan Bowden:

I feel like the only time I ever hear about underwear is on a podcast is on a podcast. Like I know so much about underwear just from podcasts. But I never and the weirdest part is that I still like I'm ready to I'm ready to go forth and invest some dollars into a bull situation of underwear because I had the same underwear since like some some since high school

Pallavi Sastry:

or men telling you about how great bras from third love are

Lilan Bowden:

Oh my goodness met yes and it's always I don't think I've listened to an underwear ad on a podcast with a female host yet

Gabrielle Ruiz:

well that's what friends are for. That's what friends are for. We're aiming for that underwear ad you know like that's our goal 2021 goals

Lilan Bowden:

oh my god

Gabrielle Ruiz:

any ads come our way

Lilan Bowden:

please I don't like who is who's hearing this now underwear companies advertise to me I need to know more information what I'm about to go what I'm looking for

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I'm about to go buy some depends because I'm about to have a baby

Lilan Bowden:

that's right is that what is that

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Oh yeah, I watch the YouTubes

Lilan Bowden:

I don't know much about being pregnant wow

Pallavi Sastry:

it's really you got to have the

Gabrielle Ruiz:

it is savage

Pallavi Sastry:

the frozen pads and depends

Gabrielle Ruiz:

frozen cooch pad pregnant women are heroes Frozen cooch pads Lilan

Lilan Bowden:

y'all are heroes

Pallavi Sastry:

Numb it up

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I mean we that can be your warmup honestly just like let's just make that our warm up everyone Lilan Bowden's here Hello. That was our warm up we're just gonna start with the underwear line really Pallavi this isn't our notes know really what our friends for friends or for what Pallavi, go

Pallavi Sastry:

friends are for. really caught me off guard there friends are for accurate underwear ads. That's what they're for. I'm Pallavi Sastry,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I'm Gabrielle Ruiz probably his best friend. We have Lilan Bowden already here on the zoomzies or Zencaster stage. Who knows the numbers are going down for COVID here, it's like February 18. And I don't know how to return to real life. Can we just talk about that for a second.

Lilan Bowden:

Oh, yeah.

Pallavi Sastry:

And Lilan like, you know, we were just talking about how I couldn't find that photo. But like, that was one of the last. The baby shower that we were all at was like the last pub like a group gathering that we were all at before shut down.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

That was like the last normalcy happiness event. We all like went to the same taco truck and we poured from the same rose a glass of wine bottle.

Lilan Bowden:

We had no idea no idea. I mean, I like I remember that day too. I remember I was really stressed that day. I was like, Can I squeeze this in but I really want to and I was so glad that I did because it cheered me to like be around so many like fun, awesome friends. And like be there with Sophia and like it was such a blast and had I known oh my gosh, like that was Gonna be one of the last events like in a group ever man I would have I would have made us all share all the rose. I would've had us pass the flute.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

But cases are dropping in Los Angeles and we're not like a medical report podcast. We are an underwear podcast. Okay, we're all about friendship and underwear. And I have to say like what's gonna happen when we go back? Like we have to travel to auditions again?

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I mean we're all actors here

Lilan Bowden:

I mean, I will say that my boyfriend will be relieved that I'm not just pulling him to read with and then before read with rehearse with and then after read with comfort he's got like a three part job one is rehearsing do is putting round shape and three is comforting.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

No 100%

Lilan Bowden:

after I finished and go I don't know if that was good. I got good. And then like, that's a big job. I'm also like, nervous.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I know it's just like I don't even know how to function I've been so like kind of enjoying the isolation. Let us know what you guys think you can leave us a review and a rating on WAFF wherever you listen to your pods especially on the apple one I think that's what I hear right Pallavi?

Pallavi Sastry:

Right? Yeah, that's really important. It's like an Instagram algorithm. It's like the more comments we get you know, the further it goes up in your feed. So

Gabrielle Ruiz:

and we're both and we're more than one star here so we would love more than one star review. And you can just tell us like how you're coping with possibly returning back to normal life I think it'll be worth celebrating but like going into it for me is just bananas

Singing:

Instafriends or Reality, yeah

Pallavi Sastry:

we went into and we already talked about like friendship from afar like socially distance but your post is from May 16 2020. Which is like still fresh. Like we were what like two months into the pandemic at that point. And you posted we were so yeah, you posted you and your best friend took selfies of each other from six feet away and what did the post say? Gabrielle

Gabrielle Ruiz:

the caption is safe best friend greeting and it's really sweet It's a very like sliced in half photo you guys are waving from afar How was that moment when you guys had that like it we're talking about Wilder Smith everyone like Leon and Wilder are writing partners comedy partners like partners in crime these two like they are BFFs whenever you see Lilan you see Wilder Okay, like this is back pre COVID times and like just I adore both of you equally. Shout out to Walter We're so glad you're listening to this podcast episode. And but what I want to talk about is Pallavi and I have a relatable moment that we did the same thing and I just kind of want to compare like your process on that like the what we see on Instagram also like what you felt before, during and after that maybe wasn't shared online?

Lilan Bowden:

Oh my gosh, yeah, this is the I would say this is very true. Like Wilder I have seen each other someone in the quarantine and I just moved in. So now we're I'm walking distance the fireplace but we don't get close. Because we're not each other's pod. Wilder works closely like with like a family. And so like she's part of like their pod. And then I live with my boyfriend. Yeah. And so just like keep it extra safe. We're not. We're not podding. Putting like a word is a word.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

It's definitely a word. We're probably not potting. Can't pod. And that was that has been the case since last year since May of 2020. Basically, yeah.

Lilan Bowden:

But so when we see each other, it's like this picture where we're standing each other we're saying hi, and we have our masks on. You know, if we're feeling brave, we have been known to get coffees that and like walk around, but not close. Yeah. And then if we're drinking them, then we go okay, I'm going to drink my coffee, we warn the other person. Oh, and then they step away and then we drink coffee.

Pallavi Sastry:

Well, and the reason why we asked you like what's the you know, is there something that wasn't shared is because you know, when Gabrielle and I so I, I also was like, you know, at home for a month straight with my, at the time seven month old, right? or eighth month, eight month old. And I was like, I just need to like go for a drive and so and so I bought boxes of cookies for my friends and I like went to the church where she usually is and during the day and

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I'm not surprised I'm not there. I'm not here to pray all day. I'm here to work.

Pallavi Sastry:

I dropped off a cookies like at the bottom of the stairs. And then I ran away and she came out with the dog and she picked him up and we were just like we had this moment where we like really needed like we almost both cried, you know, we were like oh no, like this is so strange that like we haven't I haven't seen half of your face in real life. In two months.

Lilan Bowden:

I know. I oh my gosh, I hear it. I hear it. I hear it. Like that's also been something that like I feel like more Friends are getting in the practice of, of doing just like drive by drop off. Like, like my friend will be like, hey, um, I've got a little present for you. I need cookies for everyone. And I'm like, okay, text me when you're here, and then I'll get a text and be like they're there and like, they're already gone. And I'm like, and I get it. And I'm like, okay, safety first. But like, I'm just now used to just like, you know, what did what did the birds bring me today? You know, like that, like, just kind of like these presents on your doorstep? That's like the new love love language of pandemic is presence on a doorstep, it's like a local pain. Oh, yes, we're talking macaroons. We're talking more masks. I have we're talking, I don't know, lemon meringue squares.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

People are baking. People are baking and also trying to like satisfy your belly with sweetness because like I've gotten cupcakes from a friend Charlie, who is a Patreon subscriber hey char! and really wonderful supporter but Charlie's given me some he's delivered cupcakes that even had like a little doggy cupcake in there. So all of us got to have one which was very sweet Pallavi's on the cookie thing. And I think a lot of that inspiration started kind of launched our WAFF shop. Right Pallavi, don't you think?

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, for sure. And like, we just wanted to find more things that would remind us of each other, and our friends and things like that. And you know, even nine months later from that first cookie drop off, like Gabrielle is at my door with like, a picture puzzle of us for Valentine's Day. Like that was her gift to me for Valentine's Day. And like, and it's just like, done this a few realize this episode has really come becoming like this, like very nostalgic, like kind of maryrose thing, but like it's true. It's like, you know, I haven't It was a reminder that like, I haven't been able to be there for her pregnancy either. Like and she's my best friend and I'm not part of her pregnancy. It's like so sad. It's like it is yeah. And so this we took the opportunity for this show and like, you know, creating things like mugs and magnets of both of us and like,

Lilan Bowden:

Pallavi, do you know that I bought the mug for Wilder?

Pallavi Sastry:

because I managed the e commerce I do know that you do. Thank you. Which is why I brought it up Yeah,

Lilan Bowden:

she doesn't know yet. I haven't given Oh, we're planning like a like a big exchange day. She's in need of a printer and I'm in need of giving away my printer. It's going to be on like a big exchange that she has things that I could use. And she doesn't know isn't that so sweet.

Pallavi Sastry:

That's so sweet.

Lilan Bowden:

She's gonna love it because Wilder loves mugs. I've gotten so many like

Gabrielle Ruiz:

you said you said she loves novelty mugs. That's what you said. Which one did you get? We have two

Lilan Bowden:

be my platonic Valentine

Gabrielle Ruiz:

love is it does it look like it's the necklace? Or is it the candy heart?

Lilan Bowden:

I think it's the candy heart. Yes, it's got a little heart.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Oh,

Lilan Bowden:

I know.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

She's so cute. She's so cute.

Lilan Bowden:

We all know

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I'm so glad you got one for her. She's gonna love it

Lilan Bowden:

she's gonna love it She's gotten me like mugs from everywhere that she's traveled to like the only the only mugs I own are hers because every time I like move I've moved a lot in the past like four years mostly because of Andi Mac but I give away stuff and I can't give away the these mugs because they're sentimental they mean to me so they're the only cups I have.

Pallavi Sastry:

Wow

Lilan Bowden:

are all the all of her mugs.

Pallavi Sastry:

I love hat

Gabrielle Ruiz:

well make sure you tell us when you're having this printer exchange because we don't want her to listen this episode and spoil it for you.

Lilan Bowden:

That's true. Okay, we'll be in touch

Gabrielle Ruiz:

let's plan this out

Lilan Bowden:

Start a secret

Pallavi Sastry:

yeah

Lilan Bowden:

group thread

Pallavi Sastry:

just like record her reaction to opening it and you know just tag us too

Lilan Bowden:

oh my gosh, this is this is a great idea. This is great

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I mean I'm but it's true like the the local pen pal thing is such a thing i mean it's it's it's what we can do and it's the I dropped this off and I my experience right now being pregnant there have been at least three families that wanted to donate clothes or you know breast things and nipple things and things that I haven't gotten like deep into yet you know to like dive through but like I feel the blessing of having my own little department store to go through even the age or the gender doesn't match my journey right now. But Pallavi's you know not I mean she's selling and donating such like high quality baby shit. And then when she's dropping off hopefully this weekend and then Rachel bloom dropped off some stuff which was so thoughtful of her. Sophia wants to send Sophia wants to drop off some staff. Like fun people like with good stuff. You know what I mean? Pallavi, your hat is so slay

Pallavi Sastry:

you mean the one that we designed Gabrielle?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I mean, I love that you are wearing your slay ballcap and drinking from your being my platonic love mug. You better work.

Pallavi Sastry:

What can I say? I'm a big fan of all the merch in our WAFF shop. Ooh, WAFF shop

Gabrielle Ruiz:

as you should be. Waffshop.com has something for everyone from baseball caps to coffee mugs to magnets all with the signature waff style

Pallavi Sastry:

ordering is super convenient. Just fill up your cart with lots of slay items and checkout in no time at all. All domestic orders, qualify for free shipping.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

And the best part. use promo code WAFF 10 WA f f 10 at checkout, and you'll get 10% off your order. Because we're always looking out for our waff fam. We're very good friends.

Pallavi Sastry:

Head over to waffshop.com that's w A f f shop.com and buy yourself and all your platonic loves some slay friendship gifts today.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Now back to Waff.

Pallavi Sastry:

But this is such an interconnected like, you know, because I only met you that one time at the baby shower. Leilani. You know, our first meeting was the last like public thing, right? But yeah, it is a very interconnected thing. So what we love about the show, also is that we get to use these conversations as an excuse to just like, in real time, hang out with people more you know,

Lilan Bowden:

I'm having a blast. I really thought that sounded that sounded like, just like a kid reading a line. I'm having a blast. But I really

Gabrielle Ruiz:

no, I totally believe that. And all of our all of our listeners, I mean, I'm sure you believe us. But we would love to hear your stories of what your nostalgic stories are of the what you miss, you know what you're looking forward to coming back to let us know, leave us a voicemail message. You can go to waff podcast .com And look like the many, many ways you can connect with us, even DMS VMAs text us, oh my god, just let us know. Because I want to do like this huge finale of answering a lot of voice messages and talking about all the topics that we spoke of. Because nostalgia can be wonderful, as well as heartbreaking, because there's a lot of honor, and acknowledging what hurts. You know what you lost? And I don't, you know, we've had some friendship experts on the show. We've had some friends and also non friends and just hearing everyone's version of like, what I you know, I feel like there's still like this middle waiting period of, well, pre COVID, I would do this. But not a lot of people are talking about what they're doing now. Right? And we're talking about this, this episode is talking about now like dropping things off and send each other gifts and you know passing things along. And I mean,

Pallavi Sastry:

it's like flipping it. It's flipping it. It's like, what can you do versus dwelling on? What can't you do? Right?

Lilan Bowden:

Yeah, that's, Hey, I know that. I mean, that's really huge. You know, just because it's so much easier to dwell on, what can't you do? Like, I feel like every three days, yeah, I just wail, like out loud to no one. I miss my friends like, to no one, you know, and just, I mean, like, even just recording this with you ladies is very healing.

Pallavi Sastry:

And it's also like, you know, what, we've also used these conversations during this pandemic, because our whole show has taken place during this pandemic, virtually. And what we also like to talk a lot about what we've learned during this time, because we've learned a lot about ourselves, about the world about each other, our communities, and, you know, because we can't do anything, but sit there and our feelings, you know, like, right, right. You know, in a way, it's like the silver lining is that there, there are some hopeful things that have come out of this, like the tipping point last summer, like the the uprising, and you know, all of that stuff, these are all things to the progress to look forward to. And it's like, it's all conversations we're excited to have with our friends. And you know, I'm curious to know, like, have you learned anything in particular about yourself during this time?

Lilan Bowden:

Oh, my gosh, so much. I feel like I mean, so much of, you know, especially in the world we're in is all about how busy Can I make myself, you know, right? You know, because because if you don't, then you're completely dependent. On the next audition you get, or, you know, the the next, like, just waiting, waiting to hear how your life is gonna change today. Right? And I feel like living in that uncertainty, like a defense mechanism for it to keep you sane is to just be like, I am going to fill my plate with too many things that I can't even handle and be overly busy. So I never feel like I'm wasting a second. At least that's been my truth for so long. And then you know, like Hollywood shut down. And sure, there's like shows here in there. And yeah, we see them like trickling and coming back. But it's like, it's such a, it was such a valuable time to be like, how do I work? And how do I function in a healthy way, when, like, I really can't depend on anything. And so so much of this has just been found, like, find it like learning about myself, like, I know how much sleep I need a night. And it's eight hours. I am so frickin normal. I don't need nine, I don't need seven, I need exactly eight and I can do it with no alarms. I go to bed at midnight, I wake up at eight. And that's what I do. Like, I never knew that I never knew if I was a night person or a morning person, you know, like, I just didn't want to spend the time to be in touch with myself. Because it was scary. And now I'm just like, man, I know. I know me. And and that feels very empowering.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

It is very empowering. Do you feel like that has changed your dynamic with your platonic soulmates? Your platonic? BFF? your BFF? Yeah,

Lilan Bowden:

yeah, I think so. Because I think that a lot of the people who have the luxury to be able to just, you know, like, who like who are not like putting themselves in danger every day, because their job requires them to be traveling or moving around or stuff like that. So so people who know they can like know, they have a landing plan? No, no, they have a, like, safety net, that kind of stuff. We're just at home. Right? Um, and so it's just like, a time to be like, Who am I? And I've had, like, I've been having a lot of really great conversations specifically with Wilder about like, I just realized this about myself, like, every time we meet, we have new revelations to share, not because we planned it, or it's like, we're gonna spend this time working on ourselves. You know, it's, it's just, it's naturally coming up, because we're taking the time to calm down and listen, you know, not just to the world around us, but to like, what are we personally have been trying to say to ourselves?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Pallavi, I don't think we've done that, like, we just talking about work, right?

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, I mean, every so often, like you, I think, because our work, we've kind of made this therapeutic for ourselves, though, in a way. So like, you know, we do get, we do get a decent amount of friend time, because that's what these conversations are about. Now, we do have to, like, go out of our way to make time to talk about other stuff. If I and I have to be like, hey, I need to talk to you about something. Do you have a couple minutes? And like we'll have to, like schedule it in? You know,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

yeah, we have to schedule it in because the organized chaos of just being available or being by your phone or being by your Zen caster being by your zoom, like, there's just so much going on that. I mean, I'm a pretty I mean, I feel like as entrepreneurs, especially like in the entertainment industry, from our department of acting, versus versus producing, you're really held accountable to yourself, to be ready for an audition to be there on time. Like, it's just you, really, and you're on You're so self motivated. But sometimes that self motivation for me makes me just do too much where I do nothing at all. So scheduling like talk time with Pallavi is definitely like in the books. Like there's something you know, it's like, hey, I want to talk about that thing that happened. And she's like, can you do right now is like, I think I can do it Saturday. And that was like that's like four days from now.

Lilan Bowden:

Well, you also sound like, more busy than I am currently, like I'm working on stuff. But like, I'm not, I'm not getting on the horn to talk to my BFF about work. We don't got a podcast, podcast is unscripted and unrecorded and takes place at Franklin High School every other Tuesday.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

It's all balanced.

Pallavi Sastry:

It is Yeah. I mean, it's probably also because we are sort of New York holics in a way like we do. We we don't really know. But the both of us have this in common that we don't really know what like who we are when we're not working? Well, we do. It's just I do value that aspect of ourselves. I will say that, that that makes it I don't want to make it sound like it's this thing that we need in order to feel valuable. It's it's actually a choice we're making. So like, that's just it's different. Yeah.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I think starting in college, I had to put in my calendar, its own like color, category. Fun, happiness, yay. Like I had to demand it. And I had to be like, I just shove it in my own face. Like I just shove it in my own calendar and like make its own color, make its own thing and actually try and I told Joe Aaron read this literally like the winter before COVID and 2020. I said, I've made it my resolution, like my platonic resolution to see one person a month for dinner and it's not work related. And he was like, Wow, that's so much and I was like, No, I'm serious. It's a really big deal. For me. It's like for me to actually make time and dinner where it's not about work. It's not about like, What's going next. It's just like, how are you? And he kind of like, thought I was kidding. And I was not I was in you know, COVID fun happiness.

Lilan Bowden:

Yay,

Singing:

lightning waff

Pallavi Sastry:

First question. Do you have none? one or multiple best friends?

Lilan Bowden:

Oh, multiple. Oh, I guess that's tough though. I have one easy definitive best friend. And then, then I've got a small collection of people I keep close to my heart.

Pallavi Sastry:

Love that. Second question. How do you keep in touch?

Lilan Bowden:

Oh, we got the text going on. We're texting each other all the time. Like, I'm sure many friends. There's a lot of cat gifs involved. And like, that's so much. You know what's funny with everybody else, I zoom with my BFF unless like we're working on, like, where we've been developing like a pilot for the last year she wrote it and now we're developing it. Like, we're practicing that press pitch presentation together. So like, we'll go on FaceTime, or zoom for that. But when we're just talking no zooms we're a phone call.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Oh, that's so archaic. Now.

Lilan Bowden:

Love it. So vintage. It's vintage. It's for sure. Vintage,

Pallavi Sastry:

in one word, or I'll take a hyphenate. What kind of friend are you some examples might be you're a problem solver. You're needy. You're blunt. You're a good listener.

Lilan Bowden:

Oh I'll say present.

Pallavi Sastry:

That's brilliant.

Lilan Bowden:

I bet like I think that's, that's like, like my like

Gabrielle Ruiz:

gift like your gift to everyone.

Lilan Bowden:

No, I mean, like, I'm Oh, I mean,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Like, actually, it's true.

Lilan Bowden:

No, my love language is not gifts. I don't understand them or give them for the most part. But I mean, it's a really big deal that I bought Wilder a mug to give because I don't give gifts. But what I what I do, I think offer and friendship is when I am with you. I am present with you.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

That's delicious. And so needed. Thank you for being that kind of friend.

Pallavi Sastry:

Wow, wow. Love it. And what would you like to do better as a friend?

Lilan Bowden:

I'd like to keep in touch better. I think that this is not necessarily for like me and, Wilder because we are. We're keeping in touch. We do. We do a podcast every day. That recorded, not recorded, not not sponsored by any underwear companies. Try as we might to contact them. But once I hear we have no mics they're out. There's so many like, sometimes I think about a friend that I just like love and haven't talked to in a long time. And then instead of just like texting them to be like, Hey, I'll just think about how great they are. And then just go about my day. Like I could I could be I could use this. I could be proactive with it. Yeah, so i don't know i i want to do that more because I do think about my friends all of the time. Even now more so.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Well. We here on waff celebrate the platonic love New Year, which is Galentine's Day. So just make that resolution and keep let us know how it's going.

Lilan Bowden:

I will

Gabrielle Ruiz:

And then our final iconic question is Lilan, What are friends for?

Lilan Bowden:

What aren't they for? Are you kidding me? This this world this purpose of life is to be on it and to find a friend Do you gotta get a friend? You know, and I mean, I know that like lots of people are very different and have brains even if your friend is your pet dog or you or if your friend is 100 people or if it's one people like friends are so good. They're good for everything. Are you kidding?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

You're gonna hear it go get a friend everyone go get a friend. Also Lilan everyone go find Lilan on the socials and how would you like everyone to keep in touch with you?

Lilan Bowden:

Well, you can find me at yourfriendLilan

Gabrielle Ruiz:

guy's everyone is listening. You already got a friend and it's literally at yourfriendlilan and you will find your friend in the world. We're so happy you came on waff. Thank you for joining us today my good friend.

Lilan Bowden:

We're having me. Oh my good friend. This is so fun.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Well, Lilan I can't wait to we're back into post COVID world where we get together again at parties and take all the centerpieces from the tables

Lilan Bowden:

oh my gosh we have

Pallavi Sastry:

I did not know that I it's like a genuine laugh every time because I have been to so many events with you Gabrielle and like and I've seen you walk out with a couple but I didn't know that you did every event oh man like I

Lilan Bowden:

Gabrielle and I have lifted many a centerpiece from a fancy shindig

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, and like Gloria kaelin last season told us that she did it too and I was like, oh is this like, Is this like a bipoc woman thing that I should get in on like do we do we do this do this and

Lilan Bowden:

I don't care how fancy the event is. I'm bringing a big purse. I'm bringing a big purse getting stuck with snacks and centerpieces.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

No shame. Take the bread rolls and take the flowers.

Lilan Bowden:

Oh my god. Like we're taking pictures at the end and we're just like loaded back

Pallavi Sastry:

There's a version of that I guess for like, you know, okay, so my husband he would he lifts like glassware like he did this glass where

Gabrielle Ruiz:

he takes like a beer mug next to me is like the tablecloth. Maybe we should do that in 2022

Lilan Bowden:

Well, it depends on what kind of table cloths we're talking about

Gabrielle Ruiz:

right right

Lilan Bowden:

I'm not gonna take home some party cities

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Or a basket with a breadstick

Lilan Bowden:

I'm looking for like a 200 thread count or more. My rule is if if this event looks fancy enough that they're gonna throw these things away or they're going to stay in storage for the rest of your life. They shouldn't they I should give them the blessing of a new life. In my home

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yes in my kitchen, on my table.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yes. For sure. The food thing I totally get. There's enough food waste in the world. There's no reason that needs to go in the trash.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Can I can't wait for a steak. Can't wait for it. I'm excited. Maybe I am ready to go back into the real world but

Lilan Bowden:

then you kind of open the steak inside.

Pallavi Sastry:

That's yes, those are that's real. Yes

Gabrielle Ruiz:

out there. Gorgeous actors do eat at parties. Goodbye, everyone. Goodbye 1234

Pallavi Sastry:

This episode was produced by Team Access productions and Fast Nickel Inc. Our supervising producer is Philip Pisanchyn.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Our consulting producers are Kathleen Choe and Rose Harwood

Pallavi Sastry:

lead production assistant is Dannecker digital content director is Susi Cabello. Our production assistants are Daniela Heredia Vega Solaire Olsen and Megann Billedo.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Our podcast artwork is created by Aishwarya Sukesh original music by Joie Sherman and special thanks to irresistible force publicity and Hari Savitala

Pallavi Sastry:

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Pallavi Sastry:

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Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yeah. Go do that. Now.