What Are Friends For

AJ Rafael: Funko Friends

May 11, 2021 Gabrielle Ruiz & Pallavi Sastry Season 3 Episode 16
What Are Friends For
AJ Rafael: Funko Friends
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What Are Friends For
AJ Rafael: Funko Friends
May 11, 2021 Season 3 Episode 16
Gabrielle Ruiz & Pallavi Sastry

Friends are for coming to your wedding! But how do you choose which ones to invite? Pallavi and Gabrielle sit down with singer/songwriter and content creator, AJ Rafael and talk all things wedding...and Funko Pops. Newly engaged AJ gets advice on narrowing down his invite list and navigating the tricky interactions when people on the lower tier of the friendship cake assume they are invited. 

May is Asian American & Pacific Islander Heritage Month. WAFF will be amplifying AAPI voices throughout the month.

Get 10% off your HydroJug order with code WAFF10 https://www.thehydrojug.com/discount/FRIENDS 

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Show Notes Transcript

Friends are for coming to your wedding! But how do you choose which ones to invite? Pallavi and Gabrielle sit down with singer/songwriter and content creator, AJ Rafael and talk all things wedding...and Funko Pops. Newly engaged AJ gets advice on narrowing down his invite list and navigating the tricky interactions when people on the lower tier of the friendship cake assume they are invited. 

May is Asian American & Pacific Islander Heritage Month. WAFF will be amplifying AAPI voices throughout the month.

Get 10% off your HydroJug order with code WAFF10 https://www.thehydrojug.com/discount/FRIENDS 

Follow us everywhere @waffpodcast

Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/waffpodcast)

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Gabrielle Ruiz:

no back to WAFF. No really What are friends for Welcome back everyone. I'm Gabrielle Ruiz

Pallavi Sastry:

and I'm Gabrielle's best friend Pallavi Sastry,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Pallavi I have some updates for you.

Pallavi Sastry:

Give me the updates.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I had my first clubhouse event yesterday.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yes, and I'm already having FOMO cuz I was bugging you about clubhouse like a while ago. So I'm very jealous that I wasn't in on these plans.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Well, I got invited to be like, I think it's a moderator versus like, just kind of like grazing and the grading is overwhelming. Okay, like you just like I was like, I'm gonna put on notifications on my phone just to have an idea of, like, who's doing what, what the topics are about. And I was like, absolutely not like my that 0% battery, this is ridiculous. And so like, cut the whole thing off. And I was like, screw that I don't have time. I got like, things to do. But then I got invited and someone like had a little private little session with me. Stacy Igle giving you like mad props. She's amazing. And it was it was fine. It was an industry talk. It was like just getting to know people like off top off industry and then just ended up being industry, which was really nice to take a break, because it reminded me of our vision board parties that we would have in New York, when you would bring people to our when I would bring people to my apartment to meet them on the account of their dreams, not just Hey, what show are you doing next?

Pallavi Sastry:

Yes. Oh, for sure. That's a great analogy for this because that actually, I think the reason why clubhouse is doing so well is because people are just hungry for real connection. Which, which is why I think for this for the, in the context of what we're doing on this show, it actually matches a lot because like, we use these sessions, these these episodes and our talks with each other, like, you know, it's kind of a blessing that our show is about connection and about friendship. And so I sort of try and parlay that same ideology into using clubhouse because even when I even like pre pandemic, when I was like networking, like networking events, I would never asked like my my go to question is never what do you do? or How are you doing? It's, it's so what's keeping you busy these days? Because you never know what somebody is going to say because like, you know, then you could connect on something like vegan cooking, you know, like,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Exactly

Pallavi Sastry:

it's so much more and then and then the clubhouse thing. The reason why I'm like this is not an ad for clubhouse.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Maybe it could be

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah. club house, we're, yeah, yeah. But we're very available. We're open. But it's the audio medium. Like you don't have to be fucking dressed up. So like you just bring yourself I was like literally in child's pose in the middle of like a panel a couple of days ago. And I was like, This is lovely. So I'm glad you had a good experience.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I had a good experience. Stay tuned everyone to see what our friends for on a clubhouse maybe

Pallavi Sastry:

Maybe. But we are recording this like I was probably like a few months into like really clubhouse taking off. It's we're recording this on on March what is today March 4, but we're releasing this episode at the top of may which is Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage Month. And I asked a mutual friend of ours Courtney Reed to introduce me to our guest today cuz I've been an admirer from afar we like very briefly connected pre pandemic because I was like interested in getting involved with crazy talented Asians, but I already gave it away I think But without further ado, we are here to welcome singer songwriter and content creator AJ Rafael.

AJ Rafael:

Hey, what's up y'all?

Pallavi Sastry:

Hi, I have a very important question for you. I have a very important question to ask you right off the bat.

AJ Rafael:

Please.

Pallavi Sastry:

What the hell are Funko Pops?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Still spell the Funko Pop tea

AJ Rafael:

well you know and on for those who are watching the video.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yes, for our patreon subscribers

AJ Rafael:

I have here's an example of one they're just little fun vinyl figures. And I Oh yeah. And you can get them a hot topic boxlunch target hot topic you know did you just say hot topic? I did say hot topic. You know I have these stretchers like gauges in my ears. I have to go to these shops still. It's not just High School. Okay, it's like this is now adult life still having to go into hot topic. But yeah, they they sell these you know, there's exclusive ones things like that. It's it's recently become a hobby of mine just in the last two weeks. So

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I feel like in Clark Moore's episode, a lien brush mechanic gave Clarke Funko Pops maybe?

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, that's what it looks like. It's Yeah, so he's he was a big fan of or he is a big fan of The Devil Wears Prada. Oh, yeah, they have this? Yeah. Oh, that's where they have them.

AJ Rafael:

They have double product Funko Pop, which is it's it's kind of a random movie in the bunch when you go to like the Funko store. And they have you know, these cult movies, you know, but it's all they're

Gabrielle Ruiz:

collectible like items.

AJ Rafael:

Yeah, they are collected. I mean, they I think they are meant to be toys, obviously. But then, you know, the people, adults like me. And they're putting their value at a high amount because of the demand of certain limited ones, etc. So then it becomes something that is a little more serious than a toy, but I don't know, making me happy right now.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Well, we take it seriously, that makes you happy.

AJ Rafael:

Thank Yeah, your Funko Pops are like pacifiers. you so much.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

We're so happy that you're on the show. We have a Funko Pop theme going on in season three. Let's see who else surprises us in their pandemic timeline like what they're doing at home. This is like the funny thing I mean, I'm on I'm in a completely different location. There's I'm in North Hollywood in Los Angeles, the neighborhood and I'm in my living room for the first recording session because me that listen, Mama's got cankles now and eight months pregnant, like she's now going to her building that she goes to right now to usually record like, sure, and it's way I'm not taking my yoga ball. I'm not taking my crocs. I'm not taking my pillow for my back. So like I'm home right now and the helicopters are landing right now at Burbank airport. So enjoy. Enjoy them.

AJ Rafael:

Yeah, I'm in Glendale right now. So sometimes we hear that.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yeah, yeah. So like, we got the helicopter landing spot. It's gonna be great. So wait, wait like everyone joining us today? At what are What are friends for Home Edition more than ever.

AJ Rafael:

I love that.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I love We are so excited that you're here. We have a friend connection through Courtney Reed. Is that correct?

AJ Rafael:

We do. We do. Oh, I met her through another friend of ours. And her name is Deedee Magno Hall and, you know she's a, you know, Broadway star and also Steven Universe as well. No, she knows Courtney. I think you know, the whole Princess Jasmine connection. Deedee. Yep. Played Princess Jasmine at Disney California. Right. Yeah. Adventure. So I was really I mean, Courtney was really gracious and just so like, comfortable. Very first time meeting her. She came in to do a rehearsal for the show crazy talented Asians. And yeah, she's wonderful. And I'm glad she connected us.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Oh, I did if then on Broadway with Deedee

AJ Rafael:

Oh, you did?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I did,

AJ Rafael:

man that's amazing.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

She literally lives five minutes from me and I still haven't met her kids. So that's my 2022 goal will literally drive over and say hello.

AJ Rafael:

And I hate to be the bearer of the bad news for you. But she recently moved to Las Vegas.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I missed it.

AJ Rafael:

You missed the window.

Pallavi Sastry:

Oh, no.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Well, I sent out 250 baby showers, zoom invitations and No wonder she has an RSVP. I should give her a call

Singing:

Instafriends or reality, Yeah.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

The one that we chose was December 14 2020. When you propose to Alyssa. Yes. I mean, I saw it yesterday. Like when we were prepping. We're both.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah. Yeah, like we're both suckers for this sort of thing. Like we're cuz I'm an old married lady. I've been married for 11 years. So like, I'm just like, I'll watch those things. I'd be like, see what you could have done better.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

We Pallavi how did Hari propose?

Pallavi Sastry:

It was very anticlimactic. It was if we were about to go to dinner. And it was in our living room in our rental apartment in New York with our roommate who took a picture of us. Nobody saw it. Nobody. No. Video, no video? No.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Okay, we're gonna put this on our Patreon free page, the photo, we have to dig it up. Because we have to. I have to see this photo.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, I mean, you'll see I was so happy about it. But now I'm just like, Well, wait, how am I gonna, like, show this off? Like it's very, very much like playing to my ego, but.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

What year was that?

Pallavi Sastry:

Oh, gosh,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yeah, it was just Facebook times. Yeah, It was just Facebook, you take a picture

AJ Rafael:

Yeah that's true. That's true

Gabrielle Ruiz:

With your digital with your digital little camera and you get the chip out. And then you put it in your computer, and then you upgrade it. Like all these steps. You don't do that.

AJ Rafael:

The one version of the iPhone during 2008

Gabrielle Ruiz:

it was like the first one. But listen, AJ, you were the cutest thing. Thank you like the little word like the words that we're trying to come out and you're already emotional. This is like what's happening? Like, are you okay?

AJ Rafael:

Yes. So, um, you know, I did want to prepare as much as I could to say the right things. And obviously, y'all saw emotion took over. And, you know, there's a lot behind the scenes that was going on as well, because, you know, for context, I was putting on a virtual crazy talented Asian show. And the production within the production was the, the engagement and the proposal. And so everyone behind the scenes knew so we had a tech director behind the scenes, and we had a sound guy, my friend Chad, and then we had my two sisters there as well before that, and there's a clip of the show we're singing White Christmas, like acapella, and everyone knows it's coming. But if you watch the clip, it's funny because I'm really tense. I'm putting my hand in the pocket where the ring is,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

you're just checking in.

AJ Rafael:

I'm checking. I don't know why I'm checking.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yeah, burning in your pocket man

AJ Rafael:

Yeah, and that's why I'm like making sure it's not popping out so no one sees it. And then you could tell my sisters are also a little more tense than usual. You know, we're singing harmonies and stuff like little acapella. And Alyssa

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Numb in the face to face.

AJ Rafael:

Exactly. Yeah. For me. I'm like burning hot, and Alyssa is just freely singing this thing. You know, it's amazing. And she has actually happens to be right here. She's working.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Tell her we say congratulations.

AJ Rafael:

They say hello and congratulations. "Thank you"

Pallavi Sastry:

You're welcome.

AJ Rafael:

Yeah, so you know, her work new as well. Everyone behind the scenes new family knew that that moment was coming online. You know. So when the the moment actually happened, it was I had, I had an even gone on one knee to practice like, intentionally in my mind it I know, it's kind of crazy. But even during rehearsals when I was trying to get the camera angle, I would just like sit down on the couch, just you know, and not do it because I really truly wanted it to be the first time. I mean, that sounds a little corny saying it out loud. But

Gabrielle Ruiz:

that's okay. We're here to listen.

AJ Rafael:

Yeah, thank you. It's a mix of a lot of things. It's like I didn't know how it was gonna feel. I I'm usually such a I pride myself in being saying the right words at the right time. And it just all went out the window. So I'm crying. And then I propose and it's Yeah, it's a surprise and that's all she wanted. She said I want it to be a surprise. And I would like my nails to be done. And that's the only thing

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Pallavi your hat is so slay.

Pallavi Sastry:

You mean the one that we designed? Gabrielle?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I mean, I love that you are wearing your slay ballcap and drinking from your be my platonic love mug. You better work.

Pallavi Sastry:

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Pallavi Sastry:

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Gabrielle Ruiz:

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Pallavi Sastry:

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Gabrielle Ruiz:

Now back to waff. So tell us the tea, though, about how you're inviting and who

AJ Rafael:

well, this is the first time me speaking of this, you know, so many people are asking when the wedding is and some of them feel out of nowhere. I think that's where I am getting it. Now, I I obviously appreciate the congratulatory texts, and we got, you know, hundreds, right, and so responding to those. And then there are the follow ups from the people that maybe you haven't talked to. It's like, so When is the wedding? And, and I I want to take it with a grain of salt and not be like, is that them imposing on trying to be invite? Or are they just is that just the next natural question to happen? I mean, I don't know, you know, we don't know, we've never been in this situation. So we haven't really done a deep dive into who we are. But we are thinking about it separately to put together a list of who we absolutely have to invite. And this is, you know, family, as well as very important friends. And then we're going to see how big that list is. And that will decide that will help be the deciding factor of if it's going to be a small wedding or if it's gonna just be a full blown big wedding. But I mean, yeah, y'all would, would know. And I'm sure everyone's experience is like kind of similar, but maybe different. But the ones that have been frustrating are the ones there was one person in particular haven't seen her in a long time. And text, attending my live streams on twitch and stuff to say like, congratulations to you and listen and then texting me on the side. Oh my God, we can't wait for the wedding. Like saying her and her new boyfriend. I'm like,

Pallavi Sastry:

oh, and the plus one plus one.

AJ Rafael:

What? Are you kidding me? Like, that was really? I mean, presumptuous? Yeah, props for being very bold like that. But sure. And I also do think that there might be a perception like, Oh, look at these like successful people. They're probably they probably can have a 500 person with like, they think we're balling you not I mean, where it's like, in reality No, we're like trying to get a house you know, we're building for our future that it would be awesome

Gabrielle Ruiz:

literally co-working in a one space right now is

AJ Rafael:

literally in one room co working

Gabrielle Ruiz:

With a little with one of those little one what are those things

Pallavi Sastry:

Funko Pops!

Gabrielle Ruiz:

With Funko Pops. And a trifold in the back. All our patron subscribers can see the fabulous, wealthy, rich Asian AJ office. T shirt in the background.

AJ Rafael:

Come on. Crazy Rich Asians. Man, Super ballin. And I'm like, No, this is not what we want to spend our money on. You know what I mean? Do I want to spend it on Funko Pops?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

And maybe some nice food. Maybe champagne.

AJ Rafael:

And yeah, like we we love to eat. That's one of our big things. You know what it means? So we want to make sure also the wedding has like really, really good food and that people walk away being like, Whoa, that was a bomb wedding with some bomb food. Like that's one of our number one priorities. So we know the per plate is going to be a little more expensive than usual. So that yeah, that plays into the guests. I mean,

Pallavi Sastry:

I I'll give you like, this is not my own advice. This is actually something I heard from a friend of mines wedding that I did attend. But I was it was one of those situations where I was sort of surprised that I was on the list, even though I know they love me and I love them. But I was I'm not somebody who is presumptuous. So I just I was flattered that I wasn't invited to that. And when I saw the groom, like we happened to catch each other because we were both in the line for the bathroom. That was when I caught him. And I gave him a hug. And I was like, I'm just so happy to be here. This is so funny. It was like a camping wedding like it was it's very much their style. And he said, somebody told me and this is why this is how we made the guest list that if I were to see that person's face at the wedding, if it would make me so happy to just see their face and be like, Oh my God, then that should be your winning.

AJ Rafael:

I love that. What can I ask how it was for y'all?

Pallavi Sastry:

Well, I'm

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I'm I'm the I'm the I'm the person that if I don't get invited to the wedding, I do take it personally. But I also make I establish my honest place in their friendship tier cake in that person's friendship tier cake because I'm okay. with not having multiple best friends. I kind of have like, 1.5 I'm not that person that needs to be everybody's friend. I don't make that energy. I don't make that effort. You know, like, some people can do that easily. Sure. But I was like, Oh, I thought we were okay. We're not friends. That's fine. That's good. You know, I love her anyway. It's cool, like, but at the same time like it to me, like I check it makes me like, go into myself and see like, what did I do? Or did I not do enough? So that was like my mo in the 20s when I was in my 20s. And then I complained about it or whatever. And at the same time, I only invited 36 people to my wedding. Wow. Wow. in the Caribbean, we like took off. Oh, we went far away to be like for people to be like, Oh, we can't make it. We're like, Oh, that's great. You know, we kept it far away. We kept it far away and like off like vacation style, so people wouldn't come. Okay. And then we have and then we have the Broadway schedule people that are like, I don't know, if I'm doing a show. I don't know if it's opening blah, blah, blah. And so I kept like, tickets I kept like eight tickets, eight seats. You know, I let like eight people know like these are circulating through about 10 people. You let me know if you can make it and like some last minute people came because they were available because auditions were slow or you know, like anything like that.

AJ Rafael:

You were like transparent with it.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I was very transparent with it. And we had newlywed parties within the year later. And our locations were Philip is from Pennsylvania. I'm from Texas. So we extended our registry. We extended the party and had barbecue in Texas and like a picnic in Pennsylvania, that's literally 9, 12, 14 months late. Okay.

AJ Rafael:

Okay, this is helpful. I'm taking notes

Pallavi Sastry:

I mean, they see as meaning of South Asian people, Indian people, we have no chill. So we, we will always have the large wedding that they're like there's really, I honestly like I do have a friend in the Philadelphia area who had a wedding during the pan emic and I have yet to ask her how many people were well, but outside of that. I mean, we' e, most of us succumb to the ide that our parents will know mos of the people there. Yeah, and honestly, to be quite like to e quite transparent for for us ecause we also to your point of ou want to plan for your fut re. And that's what's more imp rtant. If our like, for both of s. We were like if our par nts want to, that's what the save their money for. And the

AJ Rafael:

that's something to think want to throw us a big wed ing. Like that's their pre ogative. So we also have a say in what happens but at the sam time, that big of a guest lis also means that you get nic sums of cash about as well.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yeah, so what what what I like what I liked about your friend Pallavi that said, I Oh, I'm so happy to see you like that you got to find that it factor with what makes you happy? And what keeps you present because for all three of us as performers that we are producers of our own stuff, you have to decide whether you're okay with putting that hat on at your wedding or not. We Philip and I were more stripped away, we were like we're gonna get away because I Philips, a lighting designer in New York, I'm you know, I don't eat and I drink too much at every opening night party, and then I'm miserable the next day and have a hangover. Like I didn't want to have that at my wedding. And so I know Philip would look at the lights the whole time. So we wanted to have one on one conversations with people and so we kept it really small to protect ourselves. And our memories, too ,

AJ Rafael:

Yeah we saw this thing on tik tok. And we've been sending each other videos you know, things that have to do with weddings and stuff and one of them was dividing the time in a 300 person guest thing and of what average wedding reception is about four hours you know, to spend time with every single person you only get a minute actually are so right with them if you were to actually do that. And and yeah, that's the that's the tough part of thinking about the big wedding and and I also will be wanting to be like the best sound quality ever and like

Gabrielle Ruiz:

when the music and stuff, right? And we wanted, you know, do flash you when you make up your mind, friends are going to tell you mobs and things that we could, you know, watch later and But no, it's good as well. And that I guess is is a little it's tough to say she definitely wants a huge wedding for sure. I'm open to having a small wedding because of how many friends we have. And that's the I don't know where to put the balance in my mind where it's like it is for us and at the same time a wedding is for them to celebrate us as well. I don't know if it's if what they want anyway no matter what, and it's always going to be different. So when you guys stick to what you want, just say thank you so much for the advice and just keep going with what you want to do

AJ Rafael:

I love that.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Like, that's the best advice take no one's advice.

Pallavi Sastry:

First question is, do you have none? one or multiple best friends?

AJ Rafael:

One.

Pallavi Sastry:

Okay, and how do you keep in touch,

AJ Rafael:

man? Well, I technically feel like Alyssa is my true true best friend. So that I know it's so. So cheese,

Gabrielle Ruiz:

you are doing just fine. We don't judge here on WAFF

AJ Rafael:

I mean. So besides Alyssa, the one best friend I have RB who I've known since third grade has been my my brother for life. We keep in touch playing by playing Call of Duty Warzone. Because we're, we're on the headsets. So he's he's a respiratory therapist, and he works a lot. He's on the front lines right now. So God bless him. So that's kind of the only way right now. And I actually learned how to play Warzone because him and and our other friends play, I got into basketball also, because I wanted to speak that kind of sports language. I've been a music guy my whole life, as well. So I, I've taken a little bit to try to also relate to the muggles, I guess, you know, like people who aren't necessarily in entertainment all the time, so I could keep in touch with them. And that's just one of the examples that I have.

Pallavi Sastry:

I love that. It's so it's original. I love that. Um, okay, and then in one word, or I'll take a hyphenate. What kind of friend are you in some of those examples might be you're a problem solver. You're a listener, you're needy, you're blunt, etc.

AJ Rafael:

I would say I'm a listener and hyphen giver. Yeah, I'd say that's how most of my friends would, would probably describe me and and, and myself as well. I want to be able to be there for them in that way.

Pallavi Sastry:

Yeah, perfect. And what would you like to do better as a friend?

AJ Rafael:

Oh what I'd like to do better is to be able to step out of a situation. I've been reflecting on my past a lot lately, especially with, you know, the steps that I've been taking with Alyssa and, and thinking about the weddings and, and things like that. And to step outside now, I guess is just how my that how it happened. And I I'd love to like look at these things I would have loved to in that moment, step down and be like, wow, I was acting this way. I apologize for this. And I hope that you didn't take it this way. And I'm sorry that I wasn't more considerate. And now just thinking about it. So I wish I was a little more present with a one on one relationship rather than being kind of just like thinking about bigger picture stuff, wanting to get everybody together kind of commanding the room all the time. Like I was that person like I the first choir that I had was a bunch of my friends and I directed that was kind of how I like gained the experience to be like a musical director. I wasn't paying them or anything, but I was like kind of just mean sometimes, you know, and I forgot that they were my friends. So to take that into the things I'm doing now like crazy talented agents and working in, you know, where there's like, either money involved or something bigger than yourself. I I would have loved to be better about keeping those relationships, honest and, and more loving opposed to a controlling way.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

And finally, AJR, our iconic question, What are friends for?

AJ Rafael:

What are friends for? To be there for each other when you need them? Or also to pick up where you left off? And if you can't be there for them to just love them from afar?

Gabrielle Ruiz:

I love that. I absolutely love that. Well good luck. Congratulations first of all and then good luck

Pallavi Sastry:

congratulations!

Gabrielle Ruiz:

all this planning have a wonderful time and we can't wait to get invited.

AJ Rafael:

I love it. She's gonna love listening to this to this one. I am so excited.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

We're really kidding. Really kidding.

AJ Rafael:

I said I essentially just said Haha,

Pallavi Sastry:

yeah, you did. I can't wait for her to hear this. I'm gonna have her listen to it because she's the boss.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

That's just blame it on her. Just figure it out.

AJ Rafael:

I kind of can use that as an out I feel like sometimes may. Hey, she's the bot. We talked about it together. Sorry. You know how much you Thank you all for having me. I really appreciate it and getting to reflect on on friendships especially during this time, you know, so hard to, to know. But you know what I had just said about picking up where I left off. I think I love that the most because there's no like, Hey, you didn't hit me up in the last 12 months. You know, like what was going on because everyone was going through their own thing and getting the hang of it. Of what this new reality is. So yeah, it's been cool to reflect so thanks y'all

Pallavi Sastry:

Thank you for coming on AJ Rafael and we will see you all next week. This episode was produced by Team Access productions and Fast Nickel Inc. Our supervising producer is Philip Pisanchyn.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

Our consulting producers are Kathleen Choe and Rose Harwood

Pallavi Sastry:

lead production assistant is Anna Dannecker digital content director is Susi Cabello. Our production assistants are Daniela Heredia Vega Solaire Olsen and Megann Billedo.

Gabrielle Ruiz:

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Pallavi Sastry:

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Gabrielle Ruiz:

Yeah. Go do that. Now.